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fancouver · Sep 28, 2015

Rather just wait for the big fish and sign Lucic.

Lucic - Horvat - Virtanen

Who can knock the puck off these guys?

MS · Sep 28, 2015

fancouver said:
Rather just wait for the big fish and sign Lucic.

Lucic - Horvat - Virtanen

Who can knock the puck off these guys?

If you're responding to my post, are you suggesting we shouldn't make small moves right now in the hope we can give a massive contract to Lucic next summer?

Friberg is a player. Would have happily traded a mid-round pick for him.

Nucker101 · Sep 28, 2015

MS said:
Would have substantial interest in Max Friberg who was just waived by Anaheim - has been waived early to try and sneak him through much like Markstrom last year.

This is the sort of guy a retooling team should be looking at for a bottom-6 spot, not junk like Prust.

Excellent skater/defensive forward with grit and a history of big-game goals who has produced quality AHL numbers the past two years.

Don't need wingers but this is the sort of guy I'd make room for.

Totally agree. Yet we throw away draft picks for bottom 6 forwards despite the fact that plenty of quality bottom 6 forwards are available cheaply in UFA every year and a couple of potentially solid ones get waived during camp as well.

y2kcanucks · Sep 28, 2015

MS said:
Would have substantial interest in Max Friberg who was just waived by Anaheim - has been waived early to try and sneak him through much like Markstrom last year.

This is the sort of guy a retooling team should be looking at for a bottom-6 spot, not junk like Prust.

Excellent skater/defensive forward with grit and a history of big-game goals who has produced quality AHL numbers the past two years.

Don't need wingers but this is the sort of guy I'd make room for.

His numbers in his first AHL season isn't that much better than what Hunter Shinkaruk put up last season (difference coming from a small handful of assists). Yet that's good production for Friberg, but not for Shinkaruk?

I wouldn't be against Friberg though, as I agree we need more players like him and less veterans like Prust, but your opinion of him is interesting and inconsistent with your opinion of some of our own prospects.

Ryp37 · Sep 28, 2015

y2kcanucks said:
His numbers in his first AHL season isn't that much better than what Hunter Shinkaruk put up last season (difference coming from a small handful of assists). Yet that's good production for Friberg, but not for Shinkaruk?

I wouldn't be against Friberg though, as I agree we need more players like him and less veterans like Prust, but your opinion of him is interesting and inconsistent with your opinion of some of our own prospects.

Because he's a stocky 5'10 2 hundred something that could fit in a bottom 6 role, whereas Shinkaruk the wraparound artist seems to be top 6 or bust

MS · Sep 28, 2015

y2kcanucks said:
His numbers in his first AHL season isn't that much better than what Hunter Shinkaruk put up last season (difference coming from a small handful of assists). Yet that's good production for Friberg, but not for Shinkaruk?

I wouldn't be against Friberg though, as I agree we need more players like him and less veterans like Prust, but your opinion of him is interesting and inconsistent with your opinion of some of our own prospects.

Friberg is a gritty bottom-6 guy with a defensive acumen. Shinkaruk is not.

Obviously the standards are different. A guy like Gaunce who projects as a checker doesn't need to score at the same rate as a guy like Shinkaruk (or Jensen) who projects as a top-6 scorer or nothing else.

ahmon · Sep 28, 2015

Friberg reminds me of Hornqvist.

small guy with good motor and has good shot.

VanillaCoke · Sep 28, 2015

Were pretty low on the waiver claim list. I imagine friberg gets claimed before we have a chance,(that we may not even use)

MS · Sep 28, 2015

VanillaCoke said:
Were pretty low on the waiver claim list. I imagine friberg gets claimed before we have a chance,(that we may not even use)

Friberg is a European with low-ish PIM totals so I'd imagine he doesn't even register as a bottom-6 option with Benning and his cookie cutter whiteboard.

Bad Goalie · Sep 28, 2015

brokenhole said:
It might be pretty frustrating watching McCann serving up some buttery passes and have the tomato cans smashing it into a d-mans shin or 10ft wide of the net. But just think of the mentoring he will get.

I just can't stop laughing every time I envision that. At least the poorly muscled McCann would be taken care of. That's about it.

fancouver · Sep 28, 2015

MS said:
If you're responding to my post, are you suggesting we shouldn't make small moves right now in the hope we can give a massive contract to Lucic next summer?

Friberg is a player. Would have happily traded a mid-round pick for him.

He wouldn't affect a player of Lucic's calibre.

But we have a plethora amount of young guys in our own system trying to crack the bottom 6. Kenins, Guance and McCann are here to stay. Until we trade away a guy like Higgins, there seems to be too many players and not enough spots.

tantalum · Sep 28, 2015

fancouver said:
He wouldn't affect a player of Lucic's calibre.

But we have a plethora amount of young guys in our own system trying to crack the bottom 6. Kenins, Guance and McCann are here to stay. Until we trade away a guy like Higgins, there seems to be too many players and not enough spots.

This is the issue with this management group. We talk about trading away Higgins to make room for youth because we know Vey, Prust, and Dorsett have spots on the team. Those are the guys taking positions away not Higgins who is an effective player. Which is to say it is precisely the managment of this team that is taking positions away from the kids.

Jimson Hogarth* · Sep 28, 2015

tantalum said:
This is the issue with this management group. We talk about trading away Higgins to make room for youth because we know Vey, Prust, and Dorsett have spots on the team. Those are the guys taking positions away not Higgins who is an effective player. Which is to say it is precisely the managment of this team that is taking positions away from the kids.

Prust Dorsett play different roles than Higgins.

Upoil · Sep 28, 2015

Jimson Hogarth said:
Prust Dorsett play different roles than Higgins.

Looks like Prust and Drosett fill the same role from where I'm sitting. But I guess having two people to fit one role is a good thing some how. Too bad we are doing it on the 4th line face puncher 'role' and not the franchise center 'role'.

Verviticus · Sep 28, 2015

brokenhole said:
It might be pretty frustrating watching McCann serving up some buttery passes and have the tomato cans smashing it into a d-mans shin or 10ft wide of the net. But just think of the mentoring he will get.

****ing lmao

ShouldveDraftedFiala · Sep 28, 2015

I have a feeling that once Vrbata finds out Sutter can't set him up or run an offense, nor can Vey be effective, he's going to demand to be playing with Horvat and will force the coaches hand.

Josepho · Sep 28, 2015

y2kcanucks said:
I've consistently taken the position that the trade was an idiotic one, but I'm changing my stance that we have to trust management on this one particular trade.

But why trade it when his value is so low? The only way I see this as an acceptable move is if Kassian's back is really ****ed up.

tantalum · Sep 28, 2015

Jimson Hogarth said:
Prust Dorsett play different roles than Higgins.

Yes they play the role of inferior hockey players in nearly every way except one...and that one thing really isn't that important or meaningful.

Zaddy91 · Sep 28, 2015

ShouldveDraftedFiala said:
I have a feeling that once Vrbata finds out Sutter can't set him up or run an offense, nor can Vey be effective, he's going to demand to be playing with Horvat and will force the coaches hand.

Desjardins is gone by the end of the season.

Sedins and Vrbata are already coaching for him

Nucker101 · Sep 28, 2015

ShouldveDraftedFiala said:
I have a feeling that once Vrbata finds out Sutter can't set him up or run an offense, nor can Vey be effective, he's going to demand to be playing with Horvat and will force the coaches hand.

I think he already knows. He seemed to be putting in more effort during the game on Horvat's line compared to his half-assing his way through the one with Sutter.

Zaddy91 · Sep 28, 2015

Josepho said:
Stop saying that. I doubt kassian was just a matter of WD not liking him, but don't spew **** like that when there isn't even proof of anything.

Lol ya ok

BROCK HUGHES · Sep 28, 2015

Bowie Horvat said:
Desjardins is gone by the end of the season.

Sedins and Vrbata are already coaching for him

It would be nice,but id rather see the other 2 leave first.JB&TL

SaltySnipes* · Sep 28, 2015

Does anybody more and more not want Lucic? I'd rather just get rid of Higgins and one of Prust or Dorsett and play the kids.

WTG · Sep 28, 2015

SaltySnipes said:
Does anybody more and more not want Lucic? I'd rather just get rid of Higgins and one of Prust or Dorsett and play the kids.

I wouldn't mind Lucic on a 1 or 2 year deal here.

Only reason I'd bring him in is to help guys like Virtanen develop better with someone who he can look up to.

Zaddy91 · Sep 28, 2015

MAGICMAN1963 said:
It would be nice,but id rather see the other 2 leave first.JB&TL

Nah Travis Green is the best way to improve right now.

Linden is a puppet.

Benning is a new GM who's learning how to negotiate a contract.

H'es drafting a champion

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