The All Purpose Pens Off Day Thread - Injuries, Practice, Injuries, Lines, More Injuries, etc

[Randy Butternubs]

Tawmmy I don't know who dat is

Byfuglien

 

[ChaosAgent]

OOF.

Yeah, Petts should get to 10-15% of that point (relative to where he's currently at). Quest for 190.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Here's the updated GF/GA/xGF% for D-Pairs:

At Evens:

All Strengths:

 

[Tom Hanks]

Here's the updated GF/GA/xGF% for D-Pairs:

At Evens:

All Strengths:

Riikola-Letang not having a GF seems to be a problem especially when close to 80% O zone starts but we are losing games right now so someone needs to switch with JJ.

Winning can make something bad acceptable, losing 4 in a row can’t.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

According to Sabres fans he's much better on the wing. He can play centre if really needed, but you probably don't want him there. Besides, McCann is a much better 3C than Rod.

Assuming Jake is still injured come playoff time:

Zucker - Sid - Tanev
Marleau - Geno - Rust
Sheary - McCann - Hornqvist
Simon/Rod - Blueger - Lafferty

It's so weird to me that Sully hasn't tried Tanev much with Crosby, what has been the actual minutes of those two together and their ice time?

 

[Tom Hanks]

It's so weird to me that Sully hasn't tried Tanev much with Crosby, what has been the actual minutes of those two together and their ice time?

10 minutes (their numbers where terrible short samples though).

Tanev was on an awesome shutdown line and he likes to carry the puck so I think Sid would absolutely hate that idea.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Those on-ice results tell me the D pairs should be:

Dumoulin-Letang
JJ-Marino
Pettersson-Schultz

But the problem is that neither JJ or Schultz should be in the Penguins top-4. Maybe ride the hell out of the 1st pair and treat the 2nd and 3rd pairs as equal pairs, but not true 2nd pairs?

To me, those D pairs and these forward lines should be the plan for now is:

1. Sheary with Crosby and Zucker and Hornqvist alternating
2. Rust with Malkin with Zucker and Marleau alternating
3. McCann and Simon with Marleau and Hornqvist alternating
4. Tanev-Blueger-Rodrigues

 

[NMK11]

Those on-ice results tell me the D pairs should be:

Dumoulin-Letang
JJ-Marino
Pettersson-Schultz

But the problem is that neither JJ or Schultz should be in the Penguins top-4. Maybe ride the hell out of the 1st pair and treat the 2nd and 3rd pairs as equal pairs, but not true 2nd pairs?

Or Pets-Marino and ride the hell out of your top two pairs so you only have to shelter one pair? Reminds me of Nashville the year we played them in the cup, their third pairing was averaging 12-15 a night during the playoffs.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Those on-ice results tell me the D pairs should be:

Dumoulin-Letang
JJ-Marino
Pettersson-Schultz

But the problem is that neither JJ or Schultz should be in the Penguins top-4. Maybe ride the hell out of the 1st pair and treat the 2nd and 3rd pairs as equal pairs, but not true 2nd pairs?

What Chicago did during their last cup run was to ride the top 4 hard. So you stick your 4 best together and ride them.

Dumoulin-Letang
Pettersson-Marino
Johnson-Schultz

With the caveat that if the bottom pairing is too shit to play at all, you start swapping in Riikola or even Ruhwedel if Schultz is horrendous. So right now you’d want them getting a look at Riikola-Schultz because we know Johnson-Schultz/Ruhwedel is bad and we’ve seen a decent amount of Riikola-Ruhwedel. But that would require actual accountability and turning to Sullivan’s least favourite, which means J-S as the bottom pairing. Anyway, you stack the top 4 and ride them.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

We have to find a way to keep Riikola in the lineup. He's not perfect, and he may not even be good, but he's markedly better than several other options we have.

I also think JJ's been much better with Marino this season than Petts has. As weird as that is to say.

Dumo-Letang
JJ-Marino
Petts-Riikola

We won't, but we should.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Those on-ice results tell me the D pairs should be:

Dumoulin-Letang
JJ-Marino
Pettersson-Schultz

But the problem is that neither JJ or Schultz should be in the Penguins top-4. Maybe ride the hell out of the 1st pair and treat the 2nd and 3rd pairs as equal pairs, but not true 2nd pairs?

To me, those D pairs and these forward lines should be the plan for now is:

1. Sheary with Crosby and Zucker and Hornqvist alternating
2. Rust with Malkin with Zucker and Marleau alternating
3. McCann and Simon with Marleau and Hornqvist alternating
4. Tanev-Blueger-Rodrigues

What did Riikola do to you, are you Mike Sullivan?

 

[Return of the Paek]

Looks like this team is in a free fall. At best, one and done in the playoffs. If Crosby does not win another cup, is he a hall of famer? After all, other players did the heavy lifting during the out her cup runs. Personally, I am on the fence.

 

[WayneSid9987]

We have to find a way to keep Riikola in the lineup. He's not perfect, and he may not even be good, but he's markedly better than several other options we have.

I also think JJ's been much better with Marino this season than Petts has. As weird as that is to say.

Dumo-Letang
JJ-Marino
Petts-Riikola

We won't, but we should.

JJ-Riiko's results actually aren't all that bad.
Let's stack em up:

Dumo-Letang
Marino-JS
MP/JJ-Riiko

 

[OnMyOwn]

Looks like this team is in a free fall. At best, one and done in the playoffs. If Crosby does not win another cup, is he a hall of famer? After all, other players did the heavy lifting during the out her cup runs. Personally, I am on the fence.

This is a joke, right?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

JJ-Riiko's results actually aren't all that bad.
Let's stack em up:

Dumo-Letang
Marino-JS
MP/JJ-Riiko

Boy do I hate the idea of playing Marino on his off side in order to appease a defenseman that's been garbage for almost 3 years now.

Schultz sucks, in every zone. Petts sucks in every zone too, but he plays LD. JJ sucks above the bottom pairing where he's getting sheltered minutes--except when being buoyed by Marino. Ruh's an AHL guy who shouldn't be getting legit minutes.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Boy do I hate the idea of playing Marino on his off side in order to appease a defenseman that's been garbage for almost 3 years now.

Schultz sucks, in every zone. Petts sucks in every zone too, but he plays LD. JJ sucks above the bottom pairing where he's getting sheltered minutes--except when being buoyed by Marino. Ruh's an AHL guy who shouldn't be getting legit minutes.

JS can atleast make a first pass when he's "plays well" atm. Something MP can't do.
I play my best 4 puck moving defenseman in the top 4.
Figure it out.

 

[WayneSid9987]

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

JS can atleast make a first pass when he's "plays well" atm. Something MP can't do.
I play my best 4 puck moving defenseman in the top 4.
Figure it out.

I dunno, man. I think Schultz might be the worst of the bunch. And that's something, because I've been raking Petts over coals all season for his rough play.

I'd legit rather run Riikola/JJ-Marino and JJ/Riikola-Ruh as our 2nd and 3rd pairs than play Schultz in a prominent role and force Marino to his off side.

 

[WayneSid9987]

I dunno, man. I think Schultz might be the worst of the bunch.

I'd legit rather run Riikola/JJ-Marino and JJ/Riikola-Ruh as our 2nd and 3rd pairs than play Schultz in a prominent role and force Marino to his off side.

Oh it's never gonna happen but i'd 100% try it.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Looks like both JM and Dumo are wearing contact jerseys today.
Best news ever.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

The tweet summing it all up.

 

[exHornet]

Well, it's finally going to happen.

 

[Ryder71]

Looks like both JM and Dumo are wearing contact jerseys today.
Best news ever.

Great balls of fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ryder71]

Well, it's finally going to happen.

What is?

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

Looks like both JM and Dumo are wearing contact jerseys today.
Best news ever.

My exact reaction