Prospect Info: The 2020 - 2021 Prospects Thread

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Gstank

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Just looking at our farm system we seem to have a ton of B/C prospects who are tracking fairely well but are about to hit the age (21+) where they need to show something in trainning camp or have a huge season in there respective leagues to make the jump to the big club. This isnt a bad thing since all our top end prospects over the past 5 years (besides Juolevi) have hit so far but we will need at least a couple of those players to become servicable bottom 6/bottom pairing players. A lot of of them have showed solid progression year in and year out but havent blown the doors off yet hopefully this next year will be the coming out party for some of those guys.
 
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John Belushi

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Who are these prospects that are tracking well that show legitimate potential? Not trying to be contentious. I was under the impression most of our prospects were very unlikely to make the show, even in a depth role.
 

Gstank

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Who are these prospects that are tracking well that show legitimate potential? Not trying to be contentious. I was under the impression most of our prospects were very unlikely to make the show, even in a depth role.

Lockwood
Gad
Dipietro
Mcdonough

Next group would be
Karlsson
Jasek
Woo
Maybe Brisbose the organization seems to like him but we really havent seen him get an extended look yet

And then a some of the Euro guys
Utunen
Costmar
 

RobertKron

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Lockwood
Gad
Dipietro
Mcdonough

Next group would be
Karlsson
Jasek
Woo
Maybe Brisbose the organization seems to like him but we really havent seen him get an extended look yet

And then a some of the Euro guys
Utunen
Costmar

Jasek is 23, in his D+7 season, and just went back to Europe. That's not really "tracking well" to be any type of NHL player, much less one of "legitimate potential."

Brisebois, similarly, isn't really "tracking well" by any definition as he's been passed by guys like Hughes (obviously), Rathbone, Juolevi, and probably soon-if-not-already Woo. Even with the org's current D group, he looks like he's out in the weeds.
 
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VanJack

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Canucks Army with a nice piece on Jonah Gadjovich....training and working his butt of this off-season to compete for a spot at training camp.

Obviously the odds are stacked against him, but a kid who's working that hard and laying it on the line to try and make it deserves a break. Another big year in Abbotsford and maybe a few call-ups to the big club is likely.

If he can pick up his skating there's still a chance he could make it. Canucks need a forward with his battle level in front of the net.
 

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Lockwood
Gad
Dipietro
Mcdonough

Next group would be
Karlsson
Jasek
Woo
Maybe Brisbose the organization seems to like him but we really havent seen him get an extended look yet

And then a some of the Euro guys
Utunen
Costmar

Karlsson is not coming over.
Jasek is done.
Breezbwah is an AHLer. no real progression from his draft year, sad.
Utenen too small, and wont make NHL.
 

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Canucks Army with a nice piece on Jonah Gadjovich....training and working his butt of this off-season to compete for a spot at training camp.

Obviously the odds are stacked against him, but a kid who's working that hard and laying it on the line to try and make it deserves a break. Another big year in Abbotsford and maybe a few call-ups to the big club is likely.

If he can pick up his skating there's still a chance he could make it. Canucks need a forward with his battle level in front of the net.

Realistically is he even as good a prospect as Reid Boucher was?

I think that other than Woo the group in Abby will mainly be AHL fodder and have little to no NHL potential, our depth in our system just really sucks.
 

dbaz

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Realistically is he even as good a prospect as Reid Boucher was?

I think that other than Woo the group in Abby will mainly be AHL fodder and have little to no NHL potential, our depth in our system just really sucks.
different types of players.
boucher was always top 6 or bust.
gadjovich was bottom 6, and that completely depended on improving his skating. the amount of goals in the ahl last year was a bit surprising.
 

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Realistically is he even as good a prospect as Reid Boucher was?

I think that other than Woo the group in Abby will mainly be AHL fodder and have little to no NHL potential, our depth in our system just really sucks.
The team has already turned over there are basically no spot open to prospects next year beyond Rathbone. It is not 2017 where team needed to multiple players to be upgraded. Now we need our NHL youth to progress our prospects mean little. We have little but team does not need much either. Of course it would be nice to have more prospects but it is a luxury not a necessity this year. We have the core in place.
 

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The team has already turned over there are basically no spot open to prospects next year beyond Rathbone. It is not 2017 where team needed to multiple players to be upgraded. Now we need our NHL youth to progress our prospects mean little. We have little but team does not need much either. Of course it would be nice to have more prospects but it is a luxury not a necessity this year. We have the core in place.

You are right that prospect depth doesn’t matter if you are taking a day to day, year to year, approach. But obviously that’s a terrible way to run a team, and equally obvious, in a cap league, you have to consistently have prospect depth so that you can, at best, occasionally move out expensive soon to be free agents and replace them with young players, but at worst, avoid needing to overspend on UFAs like Poolman to fill spots on your team that wouldn’t exist if you had good prospect depth.
 

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You are right that prospect depth doesn’t matter if you are taking a day to day, year to year, approach. But obviously that’s a terrible way to run a team, and equally obvious, in a cap league, you have to consistently have prospect depth so that you can, at best, occasionally move out expensive soon to be free agents and replace them with young players, but at worst, avoid needing to overspend on UFAs like Poolman to fill spots on your team that wouldn’t exist if you had good prospect depth.

And frankly, this is all so god dam obvious that it never should need to be said. But obviously some posters are trying to find some reason why a treat that’s been one of the worst teams over the last seven years also has one of the worst prospect pools.
 

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You are right that prospect depth doesn’t matter if you are taking a day to day, year to year, approach. But obviously that’s a terrible way to run a team, and equally obvious, in a cap league, you have to consistently have prospect depth so that you can, at best, occasionally move out expensive soon to be free agents and replace them with young players, but at worst, avoid needing to overspend on UFAs like Poolman to fill spots on your team that wouldn’t exist if you had good prospect depth.

I agree with this as I view prospects as assets and this team needs more assets after missing the playoffs, heck every team should strive to have more assets rather than less.
 

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In the nosebleeds
Lockwood
Gad
Dipietro
Mcdonough

Next group would be
Karlsson
Jasek
Woo
Maybe Brisbose the organization seems to like him but we really havent seen him get an extended look yet

And then a some of the Euro guys
Utunen
Costmar
Woo maybe, Mikey D yes, big questions over the others. I am hopeful for Lockwood. The future is now with Pod and everyone else who has been drafted and made the team.
 

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I think people are righting off Briesy WAY too soon here. Id let him marinate in the A this coming year and one MAYBE two years after that, then get him some games the next season and then the year after that Id easy briesy put him on the third pair and after that who knows the potential. Dmen take longer anyways so hes projecting pretty much on track
 

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I think people are righting off Briesy WAY too soon here. Id let him marinate in the A this coming year and one MAYBE two years after that, then get him some games the next season and then the year after that Id easy briesy put him on the third pair and after that who knows the potential. Dmen take longer anyways so hes projecting pretty much on track
He'll be 28 then.
 

rypper

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He'll be 28 then.

Lol I actually thought you were exaggerating but no.

If Will Lockwood could pan out into a bottom six player it would help take the stink off of the 16' draft. I mean, not a lot, but a little.
 

VanJack

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Lol I actually thought you were exaggerating but no.

If Will Lockwood could pan out into a bottom six player it would help take the stink off of the 16' draft. I mean, not a lot, but a little.
Yep....the NHL standings for 2015-16 show that the Canucks were one of the worst teams in the NHL...which means they'd be drafting at the top of each round.....and all they have to show for it is Juolevi and Lockwood.
 
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Yep....the NHL standings for 2015-16 show that the Canucks were one of the worst teams in the NHL...which means they'd be drafting at the top of each round.....and all they have to show for it is Juolevi and Lockwood.

To be fair, those were out only 2 picks in the first 4 rounds. And really, by the time you hit the 4th round, probably even the 3rd, draft position doesn't really mean much.

But speaking of that draft, that Adam Fox pick for the Flames...real shame. :cool:
 

rypper

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Yep....the NHL standings for 2015-16 show that the Canucks were one of the worst teams in the NHL...which means they'd be drafting at the top of each round.....and all they have to show for it is Juolevi and Lockwood.

That was a bleak bleak period. No way that team had any business going into the draft with so little picks after being so bad.
 

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Yep....the NHL standings for 2015-16 show that the Canucks were one of the worst teams in the NHL...which means they'd be drafting at the top of each round.....and all they have to show for it is Juolevi and Lockwood.
Luckily Juolevi is an elite #7 or that draft would look BAD
 
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