Prospect Info: The 2019 Entry NHL Draft Thread - Part X

[avsfan09]

Yeah and what did you make of his achilles?

It's clearly an area of weakness.

 

[Foppa2118]

One more freaking day. Feels like we’ve been waiting for this pick since the Reagan administration. I’ve fallen into previous draft speculation before, but nothing close to this rabbit hole. I had a trippy dream about getting pizza with Peyton Krebs last night.

Peyton Krebs is one of my least favorite toppings.

 

[Barklez]

Peyton Krebs is one of my least favorite toppings.

Close second after pineapple?

 

[The Kingslayer]

Peyton Krebs is one of my least favorite toppings.

I laughed to hard at this.

 

[Nihiliste]

They need to just suck it up and sign Barrie. They're not going to get enough value back to warrant trading the guy

 

[missionAvs]

Close second after pineapple?

Nah, close second after Toninato.

 

[Lemonlimey]

Yeah and what did you make of his achilles?

funny you should mention, he did have a limp

 

[Pokecheque]

This is an interesting tool. It allows you to compare different prospects and even tries to predict their NHL production.

2019 NHL Draft Projections

 

[avsfan09]

This is an interesting tool. It allows you to compare different prospects and even tries to predict their NHL production.

2019 NHL Draft Projections

According to that tool everyone is going to bust.

 

[Foppa2118]

Nah, close second after Toninato.

You'd think he'd make better sauce passes.

 

[Hans Landaskog]

Calling it now, pundits will talk about if the Avs will trade Barrie or not during the draft (it doesn't happen). Avs draft Caufield at #4 and Pods starts to slip, we think Avs could get him, but he goes at #15 and Avs take an off the board pick at #16.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Calling it now, pundits will talk about if the Avs will trade Barrie or not during the draft (it doesn't happen). Avs draft Caufield at #4 and Pods starts to slip, we think Avs could get him, but he goes at #15 and Avs take an off the board pick at #16.

This is disgusting

 

[Patagonia]

Calling it now, pundits will talk about if the Avs will trade Barrie or not during the draft (it doesn't happen). Avs draft Caufield at #4 and Pods starts to slip, we think Avs could get him, but he goes at #15 and Avs take an off the board pick at #16.

Sure...

 

[Nihiliste]

Calling it now, pundits will talk about if the Avs will trade Barrie or not during the draft (it doesn't happen). Avs draft Caufield at #4 and Pods starts to slip, we think Avs could get him, but he goes at #15 and Avs take an off the board pick at #16.

Caufield and Brink lol

 

[flyfysher]

They need to just suck it up and sign Barrie. They're not going to get enough value back to warrant trading the guy

How do you define value? Position, production, play, IQ, replaceability, open up another protected slot in the upcoming entry draft, cut salary, etc.? Don't get me wrong. I think the consensus revolves around a $7.5M AAV long-term contract. I'm guessing Barrie would want minimum $7.75M as a cap friendly deal for the Avs. I don't think he'll ask for $10M but at least $8M. But I could see the Avs being bullheaded about what they'll pay.

 

[Nihiliste]

How do you define value? Position, production, play, IQ, replaceability, open up another protected slot in the upcoming entry draft, cut salary, etc.? Don't get me wrong. I think the consensus revolves around a $7.5M AAV long-term contract. I'm guessing Barrie would want minimum $7.75M as a cap friendly deal for the Avs. I don't think he'll ask for $10M but at least $8M. But I could see the Avs being bullheaded about what they'll pay.

I think you've got to pay talented players market or close to market value if you ever want to win anything.

 

[Foppberg]

 

[Echo Roku]

*Sakic steps up to the podium and stands there silent for 40 minutes*

 

[dwkdnvr]

I think you've got to pay talented players market or close to market value if you ever want to win anything.

There is some truth to that, but you can't pay them all. If you pay Barrie 8M and 2 years from now he's your 3rd most important D (possibly 4th if we draft Byram), you have a serious payscale problem and you're tying up salary where you don't want to. So, the entire question hinges on what role you see him playing going forward, and the crystal ball is pretty murky there.

Trading Barrie now not only potentially makes the expansion draft problem easier to manage, it also removes a bit chunk of next years cap commitment, allowing you flexibility to go after a UFA without handcuffing yourself. Now, obviously you have to get good value coming back, but IMHO it makes complete sense for them to look at options if they present themselves.

 

[missionAvs]

You'd think he'd make better sauce passes.

God damn that's good. Well done sir.

 

[Metallo]

My interest for Turcotte went down when I learned he was Alfie’s son.

 

[Nihiliste]

There is some truth to that, but you can't pay them all. If you pay Barrie 8M and 2 years from now he's your 3rd most important D (possibly 4th if we draft Byram), you have a serious payscale problem and you're tying up salary where you don't want to. So, the entire question hinges on what role you see him playing going forward, and the crystal ball is pretty murky there.

Trading Barrie now not only potentially makes the expansion draft problem easier to manage, it also removes a bit chunk of next years cap commitment, allowing you flexibility to go after a UFA without handcuffing yourself. Now, obviously you have to get good value coming back, but IMHO it makes complete sense for them to look at options if they present themselves.

He’ll be worth more a couple years into that new contract.

 

[Pacman33]

Ill be fine with whomever we take at 4 but starting to really want dach. Think hes the home run pick and ive never been a safe pick fan. I know most prefer turcotte but just dont see the same level of potential as a dach or zegras. Turcotte would be a great fit but its hopefully gonna be a long time before we draft this high again so prefer the upside of a dach

 

[Patagonia]

There is some truth to that, but you can't pay them all. If you pay Barrie 8M and 2 years from now he's your 3rd most important D (possibly 4th if we draft Byram), you have a serious payscale problem and you're tying up salary where you don't want to. So, the entire question hinges on what role you see him playing going forward, and the crystal ball is pretty murky there.

Trading Barrie now not only potentially makes the expansion draft problem easier to manage, it also removes a bit chunk of next years cap commitment, allowing you flexibility to go after a UFA without handcuffing yourself. Now, obviously you have to get good value coming back, but IMHO it makes complete sense for them to look at options if they present themselves.

So well said!

Unfortunately, you pissed off the pro-Barrie Posters.

 

[ljb4]

For #4 I hope they take the leftover of Turcotte/Byram, but if Turcotte goes #3 and the Avs are set on picking a forward and decide to trade down, which of these would be the best value:

1) #4 and #47 to LA for #5 and #33 (pick Dach or Zegras)
2) #4 and #78 to Detroit for #6 and #35 (get leftover of Dach or Zegras)
3) #4 to Buffalo for #7 and #31 (Boldy/Podkolzin)
4) #4 to Anaheim for #9 and #29 (Boldy/Podkolzin)
5) #4, #16, and Kerfoot to Vancouver for Horvat and #10 (doubt Vancouver goes for this)
6) Stay at #4 and pick your forward.

My preference would be Vancouver followed by LA and Detroit.