Prospect Info: The 2019 Entry NHL Draft Thread - Part VIII

[Foxtail]

Wait Cozens is faster than Turcotte?

Yes

 

[CoachBadkitten]

We'd need to trade up a lot further than that to nab Pod

What do you think New Jersey would ask for?

 

[Foxtail]

Uh.. Cozens isn't faster or better on his edges than Turcotte. This is like playing duck hunt, and talking about a turkey shoot. Wtf?

Turcotte lacks top end speed Cozens is faster

 

[S E P H]

Friedman said Colorado could be interested in moving up from #16 for what it's worth.

Anyway, nab Turcotte/Zegras at #4 and then one of the good D prospects later.

Oh man, if they trade up to get Boldy that would make me my pants and that’s with whoever we pick at 4th overall as well.

 

[cgf]

What do you think New Jersey would ask for?

Depends on how much they get to trade down to #5-7

 

[S E P H]

Turcotte lacks top end speed Cozens is faster

These comparisons are off, just because Cozens is a better skater doesn’t mean Turcotte is bad. Alex is going to be good at the NHL level which is...well, simply good.

 

[Foxtail]

Byram is the best defensive prospect in this draft, but I don't think he is an elite prospect at the position. A weaker year for higher end defensemen, but deep in the #2-4 sort of D projections. Zegras is the guy I'd pick at 4 with zero hesitation. I'd take him at 3.

Exactly this for me , just hoping the Hawks take Turcotte instead

 

[Ivan13]

I might have misheard, but didn’t he say “move on” rather than “move up”?

 

[Foxtail]

These comparisons are off, just because Cozens is a better skater doesn’t mean Turcotte is bad. Alex is going to be good at the NHL level which is...well, simply good.

Turcotte is a great skater he just lacks the top gear to pull away not dissing on him. He has great edges and acceleration but Cozens is faster top speed

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I think the trade up is for Broberg.


I think they've got themselves set on a forward(Dach, Turcotte, or Zegras most likely) at 4 and then want to get who they consider the best Dman besides Byram with our 2nd 1st, but at 16 they're not confident of that guy being available.


But I also dont think they'd overpay significant to get it done. They'll probably have #16 + #47 as the package to see how far up they can go and if it doesn't get them high enough to get Broberg they'll just sit tight and take whoever the BPA ends up being.

 

[S E P H]

Turcotte is a great skater he just lacks the top gear to pull away not dissing on him. He has great edges and acceleration but Cozens is faster top speed

That’s my point though, just because Cozens is better doesn’t mean Turcotte is in the last half of prospect who are terrible skaters. Not sure what you’re trying to argue because I came into this late, but Turcotte has aspects where he is better than Cozens in.

 

[henchman21]

Turcotte is more skilled and is a smarter player who can play at different paces much easier. I always have a bit of a size preference at center, and I'd take Turcotte over Cozens 10 out of 10 times. When he got healthy, all of his questions were answered. He's also a big, big time leader too. Future captain material. The team he goes too will be very happy with him in the end.

 

[UncleRisto]

I might have misheard, but didn’t he say “move on” rather than “move up”?

Definitely says move up a bit. Broberg in the early teens would make sense as a target.

 

[AvsRobin]

I'd be more interested in moving down given the fact we can still get a player from the same "group"

And teams usually pay a lot to move up, and I'd prefer to be on the other side of that deal.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

I think the trade up is for Broberg.


I think they've got themselves set on a forward(Dach, Turcotte, or Zegras most likely) at 4 and then want to get who they consider the best Dman besides Byram with our 2nd 1st, but at 16 they're not confident of that guy being available.


But I also dont think they'd overpay significant to get it done. They'll probably have #16 + #47 as the package to see how far up they can go and if it doesn't get them high enough to get Broberg they'll just sit tight and take whoever the BPA ends up being.

Agree. Seider might be another target for them with moving up if Broberg is gone. LHD is a bigger need but with Makar liking to play on the left side and the uncertainty on Timmins and Meloche, Seider is a very good option. Oh and there is always the Barrie thing also......

 

[henchman21]

I'd be more interested in moving down given the fact we can still get a player from the same "group"

And teams usually pay a lot to move up, and I'd prefer to be on the other side of that deal.

Given the Avs' history, they are much likely to do better at 10 than 16 than 20... orders of magnitude better actually. I get the assets side, but having 2-3 players that disappoint or bust is not better than having 1 successful player.

 

[McMetal]

The Avs definitely need quality more than quantity. With five picks in the top 100, this is the perfect time to move up a few spots to grab their guy.

 

[Foxtail]

That’s my point though, just because Cozens is better doesn’t mean Turcotte is in the last half of prospect who are terrible skaters. Not sure what you’re trying to argue because I came into this late, but Turcotte has aspects where he is better than Cozens in.

Yeah well all the point wsx Cozens is faster , Not hi g to do with overall skill . Was just responding to earlier posts , you obviously didn't go back and read. No big deal

Never said I'd prefer Cozens overTurcotte or anything, it's a really tough call on the top 10 or so this year. I prefer Zegras but whomever the team picks , I'll be onboard

 

[Papa Francouz]

Yeah well all the point wsx Cozens is faster , Not hi g to do with overall skill . Was just responding to earlier posts , you obviously didn't go back and read. No big deal

Never said I'd prefer Cozens overTurcotte or anything, it's a really tough call on the top 10 or so this year. I prefer Zegras but whomever the team picks , I'll be onboard

Did your other account get banned, New Scotlander?

 

[Foxtail]

Definitely says move up a bit. Broberg in the early teens would make sense as a target.

Just inquiring but how much of a difference are those 2 and moving up over staying and taking Heinola let's say .

 

[Foxtail]

Did your other account get banned, New Scotlander?

Just my Bleedwell one

 

[Foxtail]

Did your other account get banned, New Scotlander?

Delete

 

[Foxtail]

Kidding on the Bleedwell thing but lets just say New Scotlander had more suspensions than Tom Wilson

 

[UncleRisto]

I'd be more interested in moving down given the fact we can still get a player from the same "group"

And teams usually pay a lot to move up, and I'd prefer to be on the other side of that deal.

Still waiting to gain something from the times we moved down in the past.

 

[LTC Pain]

Cozens will be a winger and Turcotte will be a center so they aren't really that comparable. Cozens is bigger, a tad faster and has a slightly better shot, but also has 0 IQ. Turcotte is better 2 way and has crazy high IQ, he is also the better prospect.

If you are a team that wants a boom or bust power forward winger then Cozens will be a good option along with maybe a Brody or Pod.

If you want a Center then you are looking at Turcotte, Dach and maybe Zegras and Krebs.

Can I get a link to where Cozens' IQ is questioned, much less zero???