Prospect Info: The 2019 Entry NHL Draft Thread - Part II

[CobraAcesS]

Using the tankathon website for lottery, Bob McKenzie's midterm for player draft placement, and capfriendly for pick projection I got...

[1st] 3rd overall:

Vasili Podkolzin (RW)

SKA-1946 St. Petersburg

MHL

12

6

2

8

2

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[1st] 12th overall:

Ryan Suzuki (C)

Barrie Colts

OHL

46

17

34

51

8

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[2nd] 43rd overall:

Jamieson Rees (C)

Sarnia Sting

OHL

29

9

19

28

33

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[3rd] 63rd overall:

Ryder Donovan (C)

Duluth East High

USHS-MN

21

10

22

32

37

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[3rd] 74th overall: (overager)

Samuel Fagemo (LW/RW)

Frölunda HC

SHL

30

9

7

16

6

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Now my personal choices would look like...

[1st] 3rd overall:

Alex Turcotte (C)

U.S. National U18 Team

USDP

16

11

12

23

8

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[1st] 12th overall:

Spencer Knight (G)

U.S. National U18 Team

USDP

16

2.38

.921

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[2nd] 43rd overall:

Albin Grewe (C/RW)

Djurgårdens IF J20

SuperElit

21

11

19

30

96

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[3rd] 63rd overall:

Nikita Alexandrov (C)

Charlottetown Islanders

QMJHL

47

24

25

49

26

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[3rd] 74th overall:

Billy Constantinou (D)

Niagara IceDogs

OHL

22

4

11

15

14

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Yes yours are better

 

[BobRossColton]

First try and got picks 1&2.

 

[cgf]

First try and got picks 1&2.

Wanna represent the team on lotto-night?

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Sounds like there is another team in the league who do not like CHL goalers, well at least late round ones. @3:35

Their version of late is certainly different then mine. The question of how often a late round CHL goalie turns into a NHLer though is an interesting one. Here's some late round CHL goalies I've found (+4th Round):

James Reimer (4th Round)
Darcy Kuemper (6th Round)
Ray Emery (4th Round)
Philipp Grubauer (4th Round)
Mike Smith (5th Round)
Braden Holtby (4th Round)
Petr Mrazek (5th Round)
Louis Domingue (5th Round)
Laurent Brossoit (6th Round)

So not a sterling list of names that'll make you say we need to pick a late round CHL goalie. However based on previous research it fits in the "you want the best chance at a starter? Draft early" information I've found. Or in other words it doesn't really matter the league you draft them out of. It matters where you draft them just like it does for skaters.

 

[LOFIN]

Just some online forum rumour/talk, but apparently Kakko would like to be drafted by Colorado or Chicago. Has talked with Rantanen a bit and so forth.

 

[Vaslof]

Just some online forum rumour/talk, but apparently Kakko would like to be drafted by Colorado or Chicago. Has talked with Rantanen a bit and so forth.

Would make sense, they are from the same town and trained in the same group under Hannu Rautala last summer. Sadly he doesn't get to choose his destination :<

 

[Postanin CB Ting]

If we get Kakko ill be so stoked. Right now is it looking like Cozens, Turcotte, Dach competing for 3-4 overall?
If we luck out on Huges/Kakko I think id go for knight with our pick if its outside ~9. Scared to pull a 2012 and have one pick bust tho as goalies scare me.

 

[Brett44]

If we can pick 2 of Hugues,Kakko,Podkolzin, Dach,Cozens,Turcotte,Boldy our 2nd line will be ok for long time

 

[S3rkie]

I would be fine with a Johny Hockey type of player on this team.

But we already have Kerfoot?

 

[Foppberg]

Just some online forum rumour/talk, but apparently Kakko would like to be drafted by Colorado or Chicago. Has talked with Rantanen a bit and so forth.

I'm Kakko for Kakko puffs

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I dunno.

These Finns are all pretty ugly looking alien types.

Are there any cute Swedes or big burly Canadians we can take instead?

 

[Bubba Thudd]

I'm Kakko for Kakko puffs

wow

 

[UncleRisto]

I dunno.

These Finns are all pretty ugly looking alien types.

Are there any cute Swedes or big burly Canadians we can take instead?

Cross Tobias Björnfot off your list.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

This is the guy we want selling jerseys alongside Gabe.

He will obliterate defenders with his size and obliterate hearts with those baby blues.

 

[Avalanche]

Hopefully none of them have a lisp like Nate does

 

[Postanin CB Ting]

If some lucky team had say picks 4 and 9 overall.. would it be worrh it for either team to trade for 2 overall (Kakko)

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Gonna end up picking 3rd and 4th the way this is going

 

[Patagonia]

If some lucky team had say picks 4 and 9 overall.. would it be worrh it for either team to trade for 2 overall (Kakko)

Doubt they would trade those picks to move up. Hughes or Kakko are very good prospects, but not worth a possible Cozens/Turcotte combo.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Gonna end up picking 3rd and 4th the way this is going

Cozens + Byram could be a pretty awesome haul.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Very good chance we have the best prospect pool in hockey once the draft is done

 

[Iceberg]

Trade a certain player for an extra 1st round pick, draft Knight to go with Kakko + Byram.

Enjoy your dinasty in three years.

 

[Postanin CB Ting]

Doubt they would trade those picks to move up. Hughes or Kakko are very good prospects, but not worth a possible Cozens/Turcotte combo.

You're right.. looking at previous drafts the only one i might trade 4+9 was 2016. Thats still a maybe.

 

[Patagonia]

Trade a certain player for an extra 1st round pick, draft Knight to go with Kakko + Byram.

Enjoy your dinasty in three years.

Knight could go anywhere from 15-45, but most polls expect him around 20.

However, Goalies drafted in the 1st round are still extremely risky. Here is a list of 1st round selections since 2000.

2017 - 26 Oettinger (DAL)
2015 - 22 Samsonov (NYI)
2012 - 19 Vasilevskly (TB)
2012 - 24 Subban (BOS/LVK)
2010 - 11 Campbell (DAL/LAK)
2010 - 27 Visentin (AZN)
2008 - 18 Picard (NSH)
2008 - 30 McCollum (DET)
2006 - 11 Bernier (LAK/DET)
2006 - 15 Helenius (TB)
2006 - 23 Varlamov (WSH/COL)
2006 - 26 Irving (CGY)
2005 - 05 Price (MTL)
2005 - 21 Raask (TOR/BOS)
2004 - 06 Montoya (NYR)
2004 - 14 Dubnyk (EDM/MIN)
2004 - 17 Schwarz (STL)
2004 - 26 Schneider (VAN/NJD)
2003 - 01 Fleury (PIT/LVK)
2002 - 02 Lehtonen (ATL/DAL)
2002 - 25 Ward (CAR)
2002 - 29 Toivonen (BOS)
2001 - 08 Leclaire (CBJ)
2001 - 10 Blackburn (NYR)
2001 - 26 Bacashihua (DAL)
2001 - 29 Munro (CHI)
2000 - 01 DiPietro (NYI)
2000 - 09 Krahn (CGY)

There have been 28 Goalies selected, still playing are 11. Surprisingly, the others never played a dozen career NHL games. Goalie are difficult to predict and wary if a 1st round pick should be used if BPA. Grubs even had stellar backup numbers and struggling.

I rather the AVs pursue prospect Goalies from other teams or draft later 2nd or 3rd rounds. AVs are likely drafting Top 15, too high for Knight when lots of good players in the predicted Knight range ie. Kaliyev, Robertson or Broberg will be available.

 

[Iceberg]

Knight could go anywhere from 15-45, but most polls expect him around 20.

However, Goalies drafted in the 1st round are still extremely risky. Here is a list of 1st round selections since 2000.

2017 - 26 Oettinger (DAL)
2015 - 22 Samsonov (NYI)
2012 - 19 Vasilevskly (TB)
2012 - 24 Subban (BOS/LVK)
2010 - 11 Campbell (DAL/LAK)
2010 - 27 Visentin (AZN)
2008 - 18 Picard (NSH)
2008 - 30 McCollum (DET)
2006 - 11 Bernier (LAK/DET)
2006 - 15 Helenius (TB)
2006 - 23 Varlamov (WSH/COL)
2006 - 26 Irving (CGY)
2005 - 05 Price (MTL)
2005 - 21 Raask (TOR/BOS)
2004 - 06 Montoya (NYR)
2004 - 14 Dubnyk (EDM/MIN)
2004 - 17 Schwarz (STL)
2004 - 26 Schneider (VAN/NJD)
2003 - 01 Fleury (PIT/LVK)
2002 - 02 Lehtonen (ATL/DAL)
2002 - 25 Ward (CAR)
2002 - 29 Toivonen (BOS)
2001 - 08 Leclaire (CBJ)
2001 - 10 Blackburn (NYR)
2001 - 26 Bacashihua (DAL)
2001 - 29 Munro (CHI)
2000 - 01 DiPietro (NYI)
2000 - 09 Krahn (CGY)

There have been 28 Goalies selected, still playing are 11. Surprisingly, the others never played a dozen career NHL games. Goalie are difficult to predict and wary if a 1st round pick should be used if BPA. Grubs even had stellar backup numbers and struggling.

I rather the AVs pursue prospect Goalies from other teams or draft later 2nd or 3rd rounds. AVs are likely drafting Top 15, too high for Knight when lots of good players in the predicted Knight range ie. Kaliyev, Robertson or Broberg will be available.

If we only had one pick in the 1st i would probably go in another direction, but having two 1st round picks allow us to take a risk on a goalie.

Never mind if we got a third one and he is still available by the time we use the third pick.

 

[henchman21]

Two of those are still developing and a number in that list had good careers. Campbell is turning into a really good backup. Goalies are no more risky than a skater... it is just if a goalie stumble, he is a backup or not in the league. A late 1st skater might get a couple years as a 3rd/4th liner or bottom pairing extra D sort.