Speculation: The 2019 Draft Thread 3 - Sabres pick 7th, 31st

[Ace]

That's a spice take and a bad look man. You can point out that he isn't an explosive skater or have the dynamic finishing skills, but stop making things up.

He's lazy and uninterested.

 

[Reddawg]

Petersson went at 5, so we never had a chance and who knows what will happen with Vilardi as he has a really bad back injury. He may never fully recover from that. Still happy with Mitts.

And Glass went 6th. My point is these are the players that I wanted before the draft started and when Mitts was widely speculated to go between #3 and #6. Even McKenzie had Mitts above Pettersson in his final ranking. Pronman as well. Button had them both behind Vilardi.

 

[Reddawg]

He's lazy and uninterested.

Does he smell bad? How's his relationship with his mother? Does he prefer Taco Bell or Moes?

 

[OkimLom]

It's almost as if goals are important to this whole hockey thing

Just like guys that can make plays that lead to goals, or guys that can stop goals from happening. Those things are important too.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Button's final mock - Boldy at 7, Foote at 31st

Brink 25th, Rees 27th, Tracey 28th

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-final-mock-draft-intrigue-begins-at-no-3-1.1325070

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Tatanka]

So 3 threads, and the consensus is...no one will be happy. Par for the course.

 

[missingmika]

So 3 threads, and the consensus is...no one will be happy. Par for the course.

Sobotka for #1 overall would make everyone happy!

 

[Kevbeau]

Sobotka for #1 overall would make everyone happy!

I can get behind this

 

[Jim Bob]

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-final-mock-draft-intrigue-begins-at-no-3-1.1325070

Boldy-Foote

 

[Royal Thunder]

He's a really good prospect and a pretty safe pick, I don't understand why some folks are so worried. He doesn't have the upside of Dach or Zegras but he has a much higher floor too.

That said, I have worries about other potential picks that are at least probably partially unfounded too (Caulfield, Pod).

I don't see him as safe, I think there's a decent chance his offense doesn't translate. So many of the big kids that physically dominate in the CHL end up being grinders at best in the NHL so I don't see him as having a high floor. Big, toolsy guys scare me in the top 10.

 

[old kummelweck]

Behind the numbers: An analysis of every NHL teams recent draft history (paywall)

 

[Jim Bob]

Why is the GDT locked?

That would be the perfect place for this:

 

[SabresSharks]

Why is the GDT locked?

That would be the perfect place for this:

Meh. Usually whatever Botts says has all the substance of cotton candy. Whatever else can be said about him, he has mastered baffle-gab.

 

[old kummelweck]

Meh. Usually whatever Botts says has all the substance of cotton candy. Whatever else can be said about him, he has mastered baffle-gab.

So there won't be any reports of pee pee slapping?

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I don't see him as safe, I think there's a decent chance his offense doesn't translate. So many of the big kids that physically dominate in the CHL end up being grinders at best in the NHL so I don't see him as having a high floor. Big, toolsy guys scare me in the top 10.

His size really isn’t very high on the list of reasons people like him. Are you saying the same about Dach, who’s bigger?

I wouldn’t describe him as a toolsy guy either: 200 foot player, does everything the right way, no real flaws. He doesn’t need to be a scoring phenom to make him successful. I think folks will come around on him if he’s picked.

 

[jc17]

Alright I think this is my final ranking for those we've discussed:

Krebs-Good 2 ways. Could be better offensively. Not the highest ceiling but a good floor/ceiling combo

Caufield-Better playmaker than gets credit for, but still not the most well rounded

Boldy-Underrated vision/iq. You know when a goalie doesn't make acrobatic saves, and its because they're always in position? That's Boldy to me. Not flashy but makes good decisions quickly. Overrated "power forward". @Ace is getting flak but in some ways I agree.

Podkolzin-Underrated 2 way ability. Doesn't have the most control/ability to finish. People won't like this comparison but I see a more skilled Zemgus in a few way

Newhook-A lot of skill but won't drive a line. Higher ceiling than Cozens/Pod/Boldy, lower floor.

Zegras-Good hands but doesn't have the vision he thinks he does. Will make some highlight reel plays, but will get stopped trying to do too much too often. Higher ceiling than Cozens/Pod/Boldy/Newhook, lower floor

Cozens- Less physical Risto at forward. Good with the puck when he knows what he wants to do. Bad when there's thought involved or needs to react quickly. Works hard enough he should have a career in the NHL but probably not at the 1C. Would be a "safer" pick than a few guys above him

• Honestly idk where to put Dach/Kaliyev
• I think York will end up better than a few of these guys
• I know I could be way off on Zegras, but I'd rather look back in a few years at what I actually thought than a hybrid of my thoughts and the consensus

 

[Dingo44]

Love the classic blue and the classic logo, but not too keen on Fanatics hats.

 

[Chainshot]

I see the Gus comp too @jc17 I just didn't want to say "Ultra-Girgs" for fear of knee jerk reactions.

 

[SabresSharks]

So is his 2-year commitment to the KHL the primary objection to Pod?

I'd prefer a center, but if we did pick him, would it really be so bad to have our #1 prospect developing in the second best league in the world, and fully ready for a roster spot in 2021?

 

[jc17]

Behind the numbers: An analysis of every NHL teams recent draft history (paywall)

Don't want to post too much out of respect for the subscriptions but here's a nice graphic.

 

[Chainshot]

Who are the toolsy players with no brains (Nichushkin, Virtanen, etc) I'd be afraid of drafting this high if I'd followed this draft class?

Who is the captain boy genius? Krebs?

I'm not saying "no brain" but that's my fear on Cozens. *shrug* Physically able to overcome his peer group but I don't get "thinks the game well" when I watch him. I am welcome to be wrong after they make him their pick at 7.

Krebs is the Gilmour-esque guy at the top of the draft. Farinacci has classic captain qualities. Moynihan may as well.

 

[toomuchsauce]

So is his 2-year commitment to the KHL the primary objection to Pod?

I'd prefer a center, but if we did pick him, would it really be so bad to have our #1 prospect developing in the second best league in the world, and fully ready for a roster spot in 2021?

Lack of production is the problem with him. He works hard, he's slow, and he doesn't score. So, he'll fit right in.

 

[old kummelweck]

Don't want to post too much out of respect for the subscriptions but here's a nice graphic.

Right, so 2014-17, sabres are 4th behind Boston, Edmonton, and Toronto's picks for expected WAR. The knock is they are a little too close to 'average' based on their expected draft value, considering how high Sabres picks were.

 

[Martinez89]

So excited in this draft day.
Still hope more and more for Zegras but also Caufield and Dach will be perfect fits for me.
And yes, I tried some bets on this draft in betting company
And my bets were : Zegras will be gone before Caufield @1.85 and Dach will be gone before Cozens @1.82

But maybe I want lose this bets....

Because if Jason drafts Cozens or Boldy uhh, big disappoitment for me, especially Dylan Cozens guy I don´t believe in him