Ted Lindsay: Connor McDavid, Auston Matthews, and Sidney Crosby

[daver]

Of course it matters! This is another thing that Crosby fans can use to artificially pump up his tires when they debate here on HF Boards. Do you really think Daver won't mention how many times Crosby has been nominated for the Lindsay and just happen to leave out the fact that he didn't deserve all his nominations?!

You do know that if Crosby plays 40 or 50 more games at key times in his career he likely 2 or 3 more Art Rosses and Lindsays right? And is likely viewed as the #5 player all-time.

He has had some incredibly bad luck and timing with injuries, he is deserving of good luck or whatever you want to call it.

 

[c3z4r]

what a complete joke, neither Matthews nor Crosby deserve to be there.

 

[Dessloch]

You do know that if Crosby plays 40 or 50 more games at key times in his career he likely 2 or 3 more Art Rosses and Lindsays right? And is likely viewed as the #5 player all-time.

He has had some incredibly bad luck and timing with injuries, he is deserving of good luck or whatever you want to call it.

Dont forget the 2-3 more Harts he also lost out.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

reputation nod for Sid
McDavid is winning though

 

[Sky04]

Someone explain to me how tf Crosby ends up on this list if we're arguing defensive prowess, because Marchand is definitely better defensively than Crosby

Does someone really have to explain to you why a player voted award doesn't include Marchand?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Everyone saying Crosby doesn't deserve to be on the list don't watch Pens games. The guy is unbelievable... still. Does something great nearly every shift.

He can still be great without being a top-3 player.

 

[Chef de Cuisine]

well deserved for the new Captain Canada

 

[super6646]

Mackinnon should be top 3, but ya Mcdavid should easily win this.

 

[um]

One of these things is not like the others, which one can it be?

(Its Crosby)

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

One of these things is not like the others, which one can it be?

(Its Crosby)

You mean the 5th best player ever?

 

[Voight]

Kane should have been nominated over Sid.... but I guess his peers wanted to throw him a reputation nomination.

 

[um]

You mean the 5th best player ever?

Not this year, which is what the award is for.

 

[Dominance]

Please, get mad. Absolutely delicious.

Hilarious how quickly the narrative shifts from the actual players being best suited for choosing who has been the best in any given year, to giving “reputation” votes.

Fifth best player of all time and still among the absolute best, baby.

 

[Regal]

Pretty surprised by Crosby, though there's lots of names that could be here, so it's possible the vote was pretty diluted. I wonder how much the divisional play might have skewed things. If a lot of East players ended up voting for him (because he stood out in the division and they don't like Marchand), it could have pushed him higher than he might have in a normal season.

 

[Ms Maggie]

Kane should have been nominated over Sid.... but I guess his peers wanted to throw him a reputation nomination.

Really? Crosby needs more to burnish his reputation?

Ok.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Does someone really have to explain to you why a player voted award doesn't include Marchand?

I'm pretty sure a lot of the players actually like Marchand, so

 

[Sky04]

I'm pretty sure a lot of the players actually like Marchand, so

Brad Marchand, unsurprisingly, voted dirtiest in NHL by fellow players

Yeah.......sure, he's right up there with Tom Wilson. I'll take their word for it:

“Marchand can do some shady [expletive]," said a Pacific Division player, according to The Athletic.

“It’s disgusting what the league lets Marchand get away with. He’s got no respect for anybody. Makes me sick," a Central Division player said.

Washington Capitals forward Tom Wilson clocked in slightly behind Marchand at 24 percent while Calgary Flames forward Matthew Tkachuk was voted third dirtiest at 11 percent.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Brad Marchand, unsurprisingly, voted dirtiest in NHL by fellow players

Yeah.......sure, he's right up there with Tom Wilson. I'll take their word for it:

I don't recall saying "all players", and the sad fact is that a lot of dirty players are adored by their teammates. Marchand was one of the heroes of the 2016 World Cup

 

[keglu]

Please, get mad. Absolutely delicious.

Hilarious how quickly the narrative shifts from the actual players being best suited for choosing who has been the best in any given year, to giving “reputation” votes.

Fifth best player of all time and still among the absolute best, baby.

Does it? I think Hart is widely considered more prestigious award.

 

[DonM]

Seems like a reputation vote for Crosby, combined with there being no clear cut #3 option. Not really deserved but whatever, not like third place is particularly important no matter who it is.

 

[BB88]

Both Patrick Kane and Leon Draisaitl had better seasons than Crosby.

Marchand, Barkov as well.

At the end of day doesn’t matter as McDavid will it

 

[Beukeboom]

Crosby adding to his Howe-like length of elite prime.

You don't need to go so far back. Gretzky won an Art at the same age as Sid.

Anyway, this is a bit of a stretch. Marchand for sure deserves it more, and I have always thought Lindsay is an overrated trophy compared to the Hart. McDavid will win for sure though, so things are in order.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

You don't need to go so far back. Gretzky won an Art at the same age as Sid.

Anyway, this is a bit of a stretch. Marchand for sure deserves it more, and I have always thought Lindsay is an overrated trophy compared to the Hart. McDavid will win for sure though, so things are in order.

Crosby will nominated for the hart also. Which will be 6 of the last 9 years. Without injuries he has 4 harts and 11 hart nominations right now.

 

[Seanaconda]

Don't they do this after they actually give out the awards?

I always wished they'd release the total votes each player received. Especially this year, since McDavid winning the Hart unanimously seems possible, would be interesting to see how his Lindsay results compare to how many Hart votes he gets.

 

[jetsforever]

Great 3 picks