But they were very specific on term. They only offered 4 yrs. hall won’t take that.
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But they were very specific on term. They only offered 4 yrs. hall won’t take that.
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Definitely not in Toronto. With Dubas in charge we be looking at him getting 11-12.
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With the Flames obsession for ex-Oilers, I can see this happening, unfortunately.
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Almost as good as McDavid-Draisaitl, even..
It's probably worth pointing out that Jersey-Hall is not the same guy Edmonton-Hall was. The latter was an entitled d-bag child. Doesn't make the trade a good one, it was pretty far from it, but..
Would be nice to have Hall back, but to have your third best forward making 10+ mil is a bit of a luxury and probably not great cap management.
And to be honest, if it were between the two (and it would be) I would rather have Nuge.
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That's my point. How can you call a bunch of maybes good drafting? 1st overall picks are not good drafting, they are the result of bad teams, they should be stars in most draft classes.
Lol no they are not busts. They seem to be on track some more than others. They have good chances to be quality NHL players. I wouldn't put Michael McLeod in the same sentence as any of them. I would even say 2016 was a very good draft for the Devils if they would have taken McAvoy, Fabro, or DeBrincat. If you are missing the playoffs you need to hit that first rounder. Unless you're the Bruins you can wiff a couple times and still be good (2015).
Nico had a strong draft year and Patrick also had that sports hernia which is a nightmare. Ladd had a sports hernia in his last year with the Jets and has been done ever since. Combined the hernia and the Flyers atrocious handling of his concussions and Patrick has had a tough start......wait not concussion it's a migraine issue that started post concussion according to the Flyers...if there was only a medical diagnosis for that...sorry went a little of topic there. If the choice was between the two the Devils made the right one.
That makes some sense in a lot of ways. The Avs are a team on the cusp of being very good for a while and adding Hall would be great. Even if his knee or whatever other of his 100 injuries end his career he can go on LTIR preferably with in 4 years. BUT... Sakic doesn't seem like the type of GM who would blow his brains out for any player and if he did you would have to think Rantenen would lose his mind having a lesser player get more money than him and what if Hall didn't want to go on LTIR and play the rest of his contract for 45 games a year and 25 points?
The more I read this thread the more I think the Devils would have to be out of their minds to sign this guy long term. There's a ton of risk for a building team. Hall should go to a team that is a contender over the next 3-4 years and end of on LTIR somewhere in the back half of a 6 year contract.
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Or because Taylor Hall is a Calgary native? Crazy idea, I know.
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We’ll have to wait and see what comes of the situation. I think he’d be a solid addition to the current Avs team, but if the trade price isn’t right and the re-signing price isn’t right, then this is all moot anyway.
While he was here he was loved by 99% of the fans. When he got traded sure there were some fans, and even some fringe media types, who cast some shade on Hall. Those were just sour grapes. We knew we'd been hoodwinked.
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No clue, just know that Hall was a Flames' fan as a little kid. Hoping for a Tavares 2.0.
*insert Flames pajamas pic*
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Given their recent acquisitions of Oilers they will probably pass on Hall and sign Manning.
The ? is does he want max $ or max flexibility?
Since he already has enuf $ as a 1OA, I don't think he takes less to do anybody any favors without a backscratch. However, whether it is for possibly parlaying a follow up deal to even mo $, or it is to make sure he is comfy and happy, or he wants to be sure he is likely to catch an actual/emerging Cup contender on the upswing, I think he takes a shorter deal, or depending on is negotiated with NHLPA, a longer term deal but w/player option to buy out balance of deal for bupkis.
8.5-9.5 x 2 or similar $ x 4, maybe 5
I could see longer term with Panarin $ and/or some signing upfront, but then, reducing risk of career degree of injury/breakdown, I see such suitors insisting on less in later years.
If we can keep Kreider at like 6.2 x 5
and drop some mo deadwood (Smith, Staal)
and repurpose Skjei, Strome, Buch for futures
I'd love him at the right # as UFA in NY w/Rangers.
Since he already has enuf $ as a 1OA, I don't think he takes less to do anybody any favors without a backscratch. However, whether it is for possibly parlaying a follow up deal to even mo $, or it is to make sure he is comfy and happy, or he wants to be sure he is likely to catch an actual/emerging Cup contender on the upswing, I think he takes a shorter deal, or depending on is negotiated with NHLPA, a longer term deal but w/player option to buy out balance of deal for bupkis.
8.5-9.5 x 2 or similar $ x 4, maybe 5
I could see longer term with Panarin $ and/or some signing upfront, but then, reducing risk of career degree of injury/breakdown, I see such suitors insisting on less in later years.
If we can keep Kreider at like 6.2 x 5
and drop some mo deadwood (Smith, Staal)
and repurpose Skjei, Strome, Buch for futures
I'd love him at the right # as UFA in NY w/Rangers.
Almost as good as McDavid-Draisaitl, even..
It's probably worth pointing out that Jersey-Hall is not the same guy Edmonton-Hall was. The latter was an entitled d-bag child. Doesn't make the trade a good one, it was pretty far from it, but..
Would be nice to have Hall back, but to have your third best forward making 10+ mil is a bit of a luxury and probably not great cap management.
And to be honest, if it were between the two (and it would be) I would rather have Nuge.
Come back to me when Draisatl wins a Hart.
He was a d-bag so it was worth it to trade him? Crosby was a whiny little child when he didn't get his way, crying to the refs every second back in the day. Did the Penguins trade him? When Ovechkin was having his off years, Oilers fans were calling Hall the best LW in the league. This "d-bag" statement is ludacris.
Hall isn't making 10m? The trade was 3 years ago, he's been signed for 6m since then. Edmonton wouldn't be in any cap issues if they had kept him. There's no reason they couldn't have kept both.
Give me Hall 8 days of the week over Nudge. TYVM.
He has stated that being on a contending team is his #1 priority. If he wasn't using this season as a gauge of that, then there would likely be a resolution at this point.
There are only 80 games left before he HAS to make a decision, 79 at about 11pm tonite.
There are 47 games until he MAY be forced to make a decision (the trade deadline). 46 after tonite.
So its ludicrous to believe that 3 tire fire games will impact his thinking -- fine. Whats the number of games that people will have to acknowledge that the teams performance is impacting his decision? And whatever that number is - can't you also say than that its ludicrous to suggest he'd make an 8 year decision over that amount of games?
I like Hall and loved him as an oiler, but I have a feeling whoever signs him will end up regretting it.
I mean, we're talking about a guy who's averaged 65 games / season over the course of his career (prime years no less). Obviously, when he's playing he's a game-changer (just look at the PPG), but in real terms over 8.5 seasons (lockout) he averages out to a 60pt winger. Is that who you want to spend $11 Million on long term?
I mean, we're talking about a guy who's averaged 65 games / season over the course of his career (prime years no less). Obviously, when he's playing he's a game-changer (just look at the PPG), but in real terms over 8.5 seasons (lockout) he averages out to a 60pt winger. Is that who you want to spend $11 Million on long term?
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Not a Carolina fan at all but I could see this as a fit?
He wants to make the play offs. Carolina is a good team, has some cap space. and has some picks if they want to be buyers at the deadline.
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I actually think Hall's 3 years in NJ have been representative of his career. First year played like a 2LW (53 points - 72 games), 2nd year was great (Hart winner) and 3rd cut short by injury (33 games). IMO tough to justify a long term 13% or so of cap contract for a player that will turn 29 in November of next year.
