Speculation: Taylor Hall contract talk (part II)

[glenwo2]

I am just ready to move on. Build around Jack, Nico, Bratt, Smith, and our top 5 pick.

I love the way you think.


I am so ready to move on from Hall who just doesn't have it anymore though he did play harder tonight.

One of these things is not like the others.

Bratt is a complimentary piece, in my opinion. He's not a guy you'd 'build around'.

And I do not like the way YOU think.


Complimentary piece, my ass.

Stop judging him based on where he was drafted.

Many here keep doing that which is dumb.

He is the Devils biggest Diamond-in-the-rough find since.....EVER.

He was drafted the year that Mr. Mcleod was drafted at 12.

If anything, Bratt saved that Draft as McLeod (while I'm still hopeful he pans out) continues to take his time developing.

 

[MartyOwns]

Leafs-Flyers broadcast, experts were asked which team is most likely to get Hall.

Bob McKenzie - Colorado
Dave Poulin - Colorado
Jeff O’Neill - San Jose

“The trainer in Colorado is getting the jersey ready for Hall right now.”

oh christ, do NOT trade with san jose

 

[Oneiro]

I think SJ would be a great fit for him but yeah, I don't want to get hosed.

Either way, I'd be happy rooting for him on SJ or COL.

 

[Sir Fenwick Corsi]

Really sucks the way that this is ending with Hall. Dude was straight up amazing just a year and a half ago and that MVP run was a hell of a ride.

 

[glenwo2]

Really sucks the way that this is ending with Hall. Dude was straight up amazing just a year and a half ago and that MVP run was a hell of a ride.

Yeah, it really was.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The next shoe that needs to drop. Get this done so we can move on.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Shero: Hey Joe, want Hall?

Sakic: Sure, what do you want?

Shero:

 

[MadDevil]

If Shero is Snoke, does that mean Fitz will betray him and end up Supreme Leader?

 

[NJDevs26]

The only thing that can make Shero look worse than he already does would be to not get the best return for Hall that he possibly can. He may be a flawed GM but he at least tends to do well in trades.

Except people are setting themselves up for dissapointment with the unrealistic level of return they're expecting. The only way we get the home run return is if Hall actually signs a la Stone, and there's no indication he would do that.

oh christ, do NOT trade with san jose

Yeah I'm a little gun-shy after the Mueller fiasco lol

 

[MadDevil]

Doug Wilson usually does pretty well with his trades.

 

[Azathoth]

If Shero is Snoke, does that mean Fitz will betray him and end up Supreme Leader?

Well this season is on pace to be about as awful as TLJ was, so expect Shero's deadline moves to be disappointing and inconsequential.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Except people are setting themselves up for dissapointment with the unrealistic level of return they're expecting. The only way we get the home run return is if Hall actually signs a la Stone, and there's no indication he would do that.

Disagree with this. Also remember that Stone had not signed an extension when he was moved, although Vegas had a high degree of confidence they could get it done. A team like Colorado will be trading for Hall with the intent and a strong chance of re-signing him and there will be conditions reflecting that. Regardless, the Devils should be getting at least a top prospect back for Hall. There’s no way around it.

 

[Emperoreddy]

We aren’t getting a top prospect back.

 

[Nocashstyle]

The next shoe that needs to drop. Get this done so we can move on.

Yeah as much as Shero and Hall are denying...this is clearly an elephant in the room. Let’s just get it done, reset, and move forward.

 

[Tretyak 20]

We aren’t getting a top prospect back.

What exactly do you think we are getting?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I would expect the return for Hall will be the following

1st round pick 2020
average roster player
B+ prospect
conditional pick if he re-signs with the team

 

[Nocashstyle]

What exactly do you think we are getting?

Unless there’s a bidding war, it’s likely something like a late 1st, pretty good prospect, and roster player.

 

[Devilsfan118]

Stop judging him based on where he was drafted.

Many here keep doing that which is dumb.

He is the Devils biggest Diamond-in-the-rough find since.....EVER.

He was drafted the year that Mr. Mcleod was drafted at 12.

If anything, Bratt saved that Draft as McLeod (while I'm still hopeful he pans out) continues to take his time developing.

His draft position has absolutely nothing to do with it - in fact, it sounds to me like you're putting a whole lot of stock into his draft position. What does him being a diamond in the rough have to do with his long term potential?

The guy has never exceeded 35 points in a season. He put up a ~50ish point pace last year, granted, but he's back to a ~30ish pace this season.

He's probably a 3rd liner on a good team with actual talent. That's a complimentary piece.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Unless there’s a bidding war, it’s likely something like a late 1st, pretty good prospect, and roster player.

I think more likely a 1st, good prospect, conditional 1st.

Maybe could swap the prospect for a roster player.

I don’t think you get much more without getting creative.

 

[Tretyak 20]

Unless there’s a bidding war, it’s likely something like a late 1st, pretty good prospect, and roster player.

That's about what I think, too. Some people seem to be valuing Hall at less than that, thought.

 

[Tretyak 20]

I think more likely a 1st, good prospect, conditional 1st.

Maybe could swap the prospect for a roster player.

I don’t think you get much more without getting creative.

Hall
Mueller

To Boston for:

Carlo
Backes
Conditional '21 2nd (becomes a 1st if Hall re-signs).

Thoughts?

 

[My3Sons]

Except people are setting themselves up for dissapointment with the unrealistic level of return they're expecting. The only way we get the home run return is if Hall actually signs a la Stone, and there's no indication he would do that.



Yeah I'm a little gun-shy after the Mueller fiasco lol

Shero doesn’t seem to value second round picks all that much.

 

[Nocashstyle]

I think more likely a 1st, good prospect, conditional 1st.

Maybe could swap the prospect for a roster player.

I don’t think you get much more without getting creative.

Yep, I’m all for adding and retaining too. The only players I’d be vehemently opposed to trading are Hischier, Hughes, Coleman, Smith, Zajac, and Vatanen (because I want him extended). Would also prefer to keep Bratt and Bucther, but if the price is right...

 

[TrufleShufle]

We aren’t getting a top prospect back.

Not with that attitude.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

We aren’t getting a top prospect back.

You have no clue. We could easily get a top prospect back if a pick isn’t also included or if we add a prospect going the other way.