Post-Game Talk: Tampa Bay Lightning at New York Rangers Game 5 (Lightning Lead 3-2)

Vinny DeAngelo · May 25, 2015

chosen said:
Geez.

Since you wish to continue to dig your own hole, what is the formula for acceptable deterioration?

If a player plays 20 bad games in a row, why complain when he plays poorly in his next game?

Why get mad at MSL?

You want to be cranky?

Get angry at AV for dressing MSL.

Exactly.

People need to understand u hit a point where ur no lo get just having bad games but ur a bad player.

NYRFAN218 · May 25, 2015

Dactyl said:
One is a rookie trying to break into the league on one of the deepest offenses in the NHL and the other is a veteran soon to be hall of famer. No comparison.

Yep. Not to say it would happen but I think a big factor in Torts getting fired was him scratching Richards that playoffs. Between that, the Hagelin comment in the media, and all the other things that happened he lost the support of the players in the locker room. I could imagine scratching MSL wouldn't go over too well with the players either. To me, it's a matter of AV sheltering MSL in terms of matchups and such. MSL should have been benched or ice time drastically cut when they went to three lines last night. I didn't see Fast much out there and he should have been playing over MSL.

Vinny DeAngelo · May 25, 2015

NYRFAN218 said:
Yep. Not to say it would happen but I think a big factor in Torts getting fired was him scratching Richards that playoffs. Between that, the Hagelin comment in the media, and all the other things that happened he lost the support of the players in the locker room. I could imagine scratching MSL wouldn't go over too well with the players either. To me, it's a matter of AV sheltering MSL in terms of matchups and such. MSL should have been benched or ice time drastically cut when they went to three lines last night. I didn't see Fast much out there and he should have been playing over MSL.

Sometimes players are sheltered to much. Torts said nothing but the truth. Hagelin is awful on the power play he doesn't have the offensive instinct or skill. Richards did deserve to be scratched. Torts wanted to win hockey games he didn't care how it happened or who he hurt along the way.

I'd rather have a coach like that then one that won't make a change because he's afraid to hurt someone s feelings (especially if that probably won't be back next year)

Grifter3511 · May 25, 2015

Riche16 said:
Great analogy

Except that the odds of red are always 50%.

What are the odds of MSL having a good game?

mike14 · May 25, 2015

Grifter3511 said:
Except that the odds of red are always 50%.

What are the odds of MSL having a good game?

Odds are less than 50% due to the 0....

Machinehead · May 25, 2015

We have a lot of these games where we have the puck all night and do nothing because we're kept to the perimeter. We desperately lack a big shot on defense; something we haven't had since Bruce Driver in 1997.

Klein has power but blows at getting it through.

Metranger · May 25, 2015

What's the odds of AV being as good of a coach as Mike Keenan from here on out....Pride goeth before a fall.

NewLife · May 25, 2015

Capt McDonut said:
Exactly.

People need to understand u hit a point where ur no lo get just having bad games but ur a bad player.

And who are you dressing in this case, Duclair?

Igor Shestyorkin · May 25, 2015

Capt McDonut said:
Sometimes players are sheltered to much. Torts said nothing but the truth. Hagelin is awful on the power play he doesn't have the offensive instinct or skill. Richards did deserve to be scratched. Torts wanted to win hockey games he didn't care how it happened or who he hurt along the way.

I'd rather have a coach like that then one that won't make a change because he's afraid to hurt someone s feelings (especially if that probably won't be back next year)

Hurt someone's feelings? *cough cough Tanner glass *cough cough*

ReggieDunlop68 · May 25, 2015

Metranger said:
What's the odds of AV being as good of a coach as Mike Keenan from here on out....Pride goeth before a fall.

Mike Keenan would have lost game 6 of the 1994 ECF had Mark Messier not been a Ranger.

Igor Shestyorkin · May 25, 2015

EuroFlair said:
And who are you dressing in this case, Duclair?

Can't dress some who isn't on your team :laugh:

Igor Shestyorkin · May 25, 2015

ReggieDunlop68 said:
Mike Keenan would have lost game 6 of the 1994 ECF had Mark Messier not been a Ranger.

had, but he was so, good times lol

Vitto79 · May 25, 2015

Win 1 game then it's who knows in game 7

NewLife · May 25, 2015

NYR84 said:
Can't dress some who isn't on your team

Exactly we got no who is good enough to play.

Vinny DeAngelo · May 25, 2015

EuroFlair said:
And who are you dressing in this case, Duclair?

Bourque, Lindberg, zucc(if he's healthy), klingberg(I heard he's hurt tho)

I'd rather play glass and give him 9-10 mins then have msl play 16+ minutes mainly on the pp and kill every power play chance we have

Machinehead · May 25, 2015

ReggieDunlop68 said:
Mike Keenan would have lost game 6 of the 1994 ECF had Mark Messier not been a Ranger.

Mike Keenan would be bagging my groceries had Messier, Leetch, Graves, Zubov, and Richter not been Rangers.

And credit to the 1994 team but they got a joke Islanders team in the 1st round, got lucky that the 7 seed Caps knocked off the 2 seed Pens who owned us at the time, and we got the 7 seed out of the West. We had cupcake opponents in 3 of the 4 rounds. It's totally unfair to compare it to what this team has to face.

Grifter3511 · May 25, 2015

mike14 said:
Odds are less than 50% due to the 0....

Sorry... your odds are 48.6%

I'd still say that much higher than the odds of MSL finding the fountain of youth.

Vinny DeAngelo · May 25, 2015

EuroFlair said:
Exactly we got no who is good enough to play.

Double shift someone then.. Go 11 and 7 hunwick is one of the few guys with the skating ability to keep up with Tampa. Not that he'd be facing top 6 guys

Vinny DeAngelo · May 25, 2015

Look at all the pp goals we've scored... They all start on the left side away from msl or with the 2pp on the ice.

Msl has made 1 good play on the pp and even then it was a bad shot and bishop just gave up on it

Petey Pucks · May 25, 2015

who will it be this time to get us to game 7?

NewLife · May 25, 2015

Capt McDonut said:
Double shift someone then.. Go 11 and 7 hunwick is one of the few guys with the skating ability to keep up with Tampa. Not that he'd be facing top 6 guys

Season on the line and you want Hunwick one the ice in any possible situation?

Machinehead · May 25, 2015

EuroFlair said:
Season on the line and you want Hunwick one the ice in any possible situation?

Hunwick is a very good 3rd pairing defenseman.

PlamsUnlimited · May 25, 2015

Machinehead said:
Mike Keenan would be bagging my groceries had Messier, Leetch, Graves, Zubov, and Richter not been Rangers.

And credit to the 1994 team but they got a joke Islanders team in the 1st round, got lucky that the 7 seed Caps knocked off the 2 seed Pens who owned us at the time, and we got the 7 seed out of the West. We had cupcake opponents in 3 of the 4 rounds. It's totally unfair to compare it to what this team has to face.

Not this again.

Machinehead · May 25, 2015

TCRF said:
Not this again.

The only team we faced in 94 as good as the 2015 Caps, 2015 Lightning, or either of the West teams is the Devils. This is an objective reality.

Metranger · May 25, 2015

Who is this teams Messier?

Post-Game Talk: Tampa Bay Lightning at New York Rangers Game 5 (Lightning Lead 3-2)

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