Transfer: Summer Transfers and Rumors Discussion Part V

[bluesfan94]

But you said players hold out for better contracts.
All the time you said.
Can you give examples?

Holding out may have been the wrong verbiage but certainly players have threatened to run out contracts or put in transfer requests or have otherwise become unsettled in order to get a pay raise. Do you believe otherwise?

 

[Evilo]

Holding out may have been the wrong verbiage but certainly players have threatened to run out contracts or put in transfer requests or have otherwise become unsettled in order to get a pay raise. Do you believe otherwise?

Not sure I understand the point given that context.
Barca wants a guy transfered or wants his salary reduced.
Cool. Player has a contract and has every reason to deny both options.
The comparisons with players running out their contract is moot.
As for holding out for a transfer sure, and players take a ton of heat when that happens. Yet the club is receiving a fee in the end. And Barca has ironically been one of the team that have recently pushed players to do so.

 

[Evilo]

Mandanda is totally an OM legend, thanks to his play, his leadership and his attitude.
Truly one of the good guys in football and that pains me to say for an OM player.

Not sure I like this for Rennes though since he has lost a step.

 

[Savant]

16m rising to 20m. LFC replaced him with Ramsay for a third of the cost. Great business.

 

[Evilo]

Rennes bringing Umtiti, loan with buying option.
If salary is low, low risk high reward.

 

[les Habs]

I mean, it is obvious that it was a comment made in jest. Anybody who believes that Barca will fold in 2 years is an idiot.

Even if their financial situation was THAT dire, no way the government would not bail them out. Too big of an institution.

And yet nobody in particular here bought it hook, line and sinker.

Not sure I understand the point given that context.
Barca wants a guy transfered or wants his salary reduced.
Cool. Player has a contract and has every reason to deny both options.
The comparisons with players running out their contract is moot.
As for holding out for a transfer sure, and players take a ton of heat when that happens. Yet the club is receiving a fee in the end. And Barca has ironically been one of the team that have recently pushed players to do so.

And to top that off Barça aren't even allowing the players to train separately, to have their own changing rooms or even get their own parking spots.

 

[luiginb]

and yet somehow this overated guy will keep starting for italy national team

Well he's overrated for Juve and the national team (where Berardi should start in his position). He could be a legend in the making in the MLS.

 

[Evilo]

And yet nobody in particular here bought it hook, line and sinker.



And to top that off Barça aren't even allowing the players to train separately, to have their own changing rooms or even get their own parking spots.

No they'd rather let their players be insulted, thrown under the bus in the media and crying in their office.

 

[Savi]

Meanwhile Club Brugge and Lens are in advanced negotiations for striker Loïs Openda. Belgian press say Lens will pay €11m for him.

Official now, confirmed by both clubs.

 

[bluesfan94]

Not sure I understand the point given that context.
Barca wants a guy transfered or wants his salary reduced.
Cool. Player has a contract and has every reason to deny both options.
The comparisons with players running out their contract is moot.
As for holding out for a transfer sure, and players take a ton of heat when that happens. Yet the club is receiving a fee in the end. And Barca has ironically been one of the team that have recently pushed players to do so.

So on the one hand, players hold out to transfer or threaten to transfer to get a better contract for the player, and on the other hand, Barca is holding the player out unless the player transfers or is threatening to make him transfer to get him on a better contract for the club?

And of course players get heat for that. Similarly, Barca is getting heat for this.

And you don't see the point? You can lead a horse to water...

 

[phisherman]

 

[Juve]

That seems rather cheap

 

[Evilo]

So on the one hand, players hold out to transfer or threaten to transfer to get a better contract for the player, and on the other hand, Barca is holding the player out unless the player transfers or is threatening to make him transfer to get him on a better contract for the club?

And of course players get heat for that. Similarly, Barca is getting heat for this.

And you don't see the point? You can lead a horse to water...

Yeah I don't.
Players respect their contract. And if they hold out they're unpaid. And if they do the club gets big money afterwards. Win win. Lose lose for the players OTOH.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Joe Aribo close to sign with Southampton

 

[bluesfan94]

Yeah I don't.
Players respect their contract. And if they hold out they're unpaid. And if they do the club gets big money afterwards. Win win. Lose lose for the players OTOH.

It is not respecting your contract to hold out for a transfer. Look at Raheem Sterling or Saido Berahino or Harry Kane.

A club threatening to not play the player is not a lose lose for the players. See, e.g., Gareth Bale's comments re: golfing. FDJ is getting paid regardless of what he does. If he agrees to go to United, he plays at United. If he agrees to a paycut, he'll stay at Barca, getting paid. If he doesn't go to United and he doesn't agree to a paycut, he'll likely get paid to ride the bench.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Not sure I understand the point given that context.
Barca wants a guy transfered or wants his salary reduced.
Cool. Player has a contract and has every reason to deny both options.
The comparisons with players running out their contract is moot.
As for holding out for a transfer sure, and players take a ton of heat when that happens. Yet the club is receiving a fee in the end. And Barca has ironically been one of the team that have recently pushed players to do so.

Unsubstantial

No they'd rather let their players be insulted, thrown under the bus in the media and crying in their office.

As opposed to being ostracised within the club? I dont see how its ok for one club but not ok for another?

If a player wants to leave it should be respected no? If a club wants a player to leave, that should also be respected no? Why is it only one way? After all contracts are seen sacred...

 

[les Habs]

No they'd rather let their players be insulted, thrown under the bus in the media and crying in their office.

LOL, good thing that never happens anywhere else. Oh wait…

Unsubstantial

As opposed to being ostracised within the club? I dont see how its ok for one club but not ok for another?

If a player wants to leave it should be respected no? If a club wants a player to leave, that should also be respected no? Why is it only one way? After all contracts are seen sacred...

It‘s only one way because when it’s PSG it doesn’t count.

 

[LOGiK]

My guess is that they don't exist, as part of the sponsorship agreement would be that all shirts sold include the sponsor name. That's kinda the point. You might be able to get lucky and find some clubs where certain shirts are not sponsored. I know that happened with Roma a few years back, but my guess is that those instances will be few and far between.

bah.. thanks. Figured I'd ask - may be missing a store or something.
Like I said I have national officials without the billboard... just can't see spending money to be a billboard... I just can't do it =P
Thanks tho...

 

[Mount Suribachi]

That seems rather cheap

Nah, seems about right. Like Jesus and Mane he has one year left on his contract. Jesus is a few years younger and went for ~ £50M, Mane is a few years older and went for ~£30M

 

[bluesfan94]

bah.. thanks. Figured I'd ask - may be missing a store or something.
Like I said I have national officials without the billboard... just can't see spending money to be a billboard... I just can't do it =P
Thanks tho...

Yeah, I don't think any national teams are sponsored so there'd be no logo other than the shirt maker (Nike, Adidas, etc.)

 

[Prntscrn]

That seems rather cheap

The question is what among the best paid players means. In Chelsea, England or the world? I wouldn't mind him back in Liverpool for that fee if salary was ok, Think Firmino, Jota, Diaz bracket what ever they make.

 

[Peen]

The question is what among the best paid players means. In Chelsea, England or the world? I wouldn't mind him back in Liverpool for that fee if salary was ok, Think Firmino, Jota, Diaz bracket what ever they make.

He becomes the highest earner at Chelsea at a reported 300k p/w

 

[Adele Dazeem]

LOL, good thing that never happens anywhere else. Oh wait…

Nowhere near the amount of times and level that Barcelona have lowered themselves into over the past 5 years.

That seems rather cheap

Raheem Sterling is not the player you think he is. Chelsea are mad.

 

[Venkman]

bah.. thanks. Figured I'd ask - may be missing a store or something.
Like I said I have national officials without the billboard... just can't see spending money to be a billboard... I just can't do it =P
Thanks tho...

Forest are selling their new shirt without a sponsor logo. Happens sometimes when sponsors go bust or teams are finding a new one.

 

[Juve]

Nah, seems about right. Like Jesus and Mane he has one year left on his contract. Jesus is a few years younger and went for ~ £50M, Mane is a few years older and went for ~£30M

I didn't realize he only had one year left.