TheBluePenguin
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Yeah points 2 and 3 would have made perfect sense if you would have inserted the posts you were referring to, but blame me that's cool, I'll admit I'm an ass though, you nailed that one
Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] Pat Maroon signs with STL (1 year, $1.75M)
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Yeah points 2 and 3 would have made perfect sense if you would have inserted the posts you were referring to, but blame me that's cool, I'll admit I'm an ass though, you nailed that one
Well it bound to be official by the end of the day, Jeremy Rutherford as tweeted the article from yesterday with an update. We can all post different things on if he wanted to play for the Blues or not. I think any home town player would love a chance. If we did in fact get him for a 1.7 Million that is amazing.
Devilsfan118
Sing us a song, you're the Schiano man
This is a whole lot of fuss over a 3rd liner guy, no?
He did a decent enough job with the Devils, seems like a nice enough dude.
But.. sign somewhere already.
He did a decent enough job with the Devils, seems like a nice enough dude.
But.. sign somewhere already.
Better Call Sal
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The updated article is basically him adding his speculation as to why it hasn't been made official yet. It's believed that the interest for him has ramped up in the last 24 hours from other teams like the Coyotes and Devils.
He did state that they believe it's still a better than 50% chance he signs with St. Louis.
Jared Dunn
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I think Thomas gets eased in at 4C and Kyrou starts in the AHL, but you're right it's definitely crowded up front for St. Louis now. I wonder if there would be a trade following this signing, I just don't see a candidate that would really bring anything back. Top line and new additions are untouchable, can't see them trading Steen and Fabbri's value will be low due to injury. At least one of Kyrou or Thomas will probably fall victim to the numbers game
the blues and maroon will entertain a contract extension on january 1st, per a score article.
Jared Dunn
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Mirtle has said that Toronto is interested as well but I don't think they'll give him the money or term the others might
THall4
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Again, I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
Being close to Ant is worth more than $$ to Patty.
The Nuge
Some say…
He’s scored at a 25 goal, 47 point pace since leaving Anaheim. I wouldn’t really call him a 3rd liner anymore.
This is a steal for the Blues if true, and I couldn’t be happier for Patty. As much as I want him back in Edmonton, this makes me equally happy. He’s one of the most likeable guys in the league and gets to play for his hometown team, in front of his kid
I think it will play out. A lot of players signed one year deals on the lower half. There was never a promise Thomas and Kyrou where going to be on the roster as it is. Next season they could easily be brought in at entry level deals taking over Jaskin, Sunqvist, and ext and if Fabbri doesn't do what we think, he likely being replaced. Thomas and Kryou can easy into the NHL level. Two years from now Schenn contract is up, you do resign Schenn who if he does well the next two years will get a lot of offers or just bump O'Rielly up, and make Thomas number 2 Center. Kyrou could take over Fabbri.
Jared Dunn
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Oh for sure both of those guys will get in eventually and giving them extra time to develop might not be a bad thing, I'm just speaking to next year in particular. Thomas can also go back to juniors I believe which might be more likely unless St. Louis thinks he's learned all he can there. It's a pretty good problem for the Blues to have overall... Almost in a similar situation to the Jets with forward depth except most of Winnipeg's are waiver eligible
bleedblue1223
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With McDavid...
Neal outside of Pittsburgh hasn't come close to the production he had there.
BuLLeT1291
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This is the exact type of comment that tells me your one of those fans that think “points” are the tell all see all.
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BlueOil
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personally, having watched him a bit, suggesting he's reliable for those numbers is a bit far fetched.
Majorityof1
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I am not questioning his decision, nor trying to make it for him. I am trying to understand his motivations for signing at a steep discount, because I am afraid of the rumored 4 year extension. If money is a concern for him, then the Blues may have to pay it forward on the next contract. That could end up being a pretty bad deal for decent term in exchange for one good year. If being closer to his son is worth millions of dollars to him, then maybe the extension won't be as bad. I could care less about the situation with his son outside of how it effects the future roster construction and cap for my favorite team going forward. Many people had spoken about his son as a reason for wanting to be there. I thought it may be public knowledge I just wasn't aware. Its not like I care where he went on vacation, who he is currently dating, or any other trivial details about celebrities that are always on the internet.
I only wanted to know why he would give up a 3x$3.5 offer to play on McDavid's wing for a 1x$1.7M offer to start on the Blues 4th line. I am sure he is not the only NHL player with less than ideal custody arrangements for their child. Why can't he do what they do? Or why is it more important to him to give up so much than it is for anyone else? I've never once heard of an athlete turning down more money than he has as of yet made in his career.
In terms of selfishness, I would think, barring abuse or something of the sort, being close to both parents would be in the child's best interest. If he gives her a huge bump in child support to make it easier on her to facilitate that, is it really selfish? It is by definition selfish for her to make him give up millions to see his child, although it is completely understandable. Still, that decision would be concerned with her own happiness, and not his and potentially not the child's. Making the offer to compensate her for uprooting her life, makes both parents more financially secure and gives the child access to both parents. That seems like a win-win in the abstract without knowing the details
As for me, I don't have any kids, so I don't need a relationship with my exes. Also, I gave up a decent paying job at a law firm to run a not-for-profit corporation where I make half as much. So money isn't my prime motivator, and I understand taking less money for other concerns. However, if the amount were $2M a year less, I'd be a lawyer who donates money to my not-for-profit's cause. Money isn't everything, but it can solve a lot of problems. But you really seem overly concerned about my personal life, almost uncomfortably so. Asking about my relationship with my exes maybe isn't appropriate for a hockey forum
Seriously, just teasing a bit with that last part.
westc2
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Maroon is willing to take a huge discount to play in St. Louis because his kid lives here (he's not with the kid's mother so doesn't get to see him often.)
He'll likely play on the 4th line with Jaskin and Barbashev or something. If Thomas makes team he'll probably center the 3rd line to start or split time at center with Bozak.
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I am not questioning his decision, nor trying to make it for him. I am trying to understand his motivations for signing at a steep discount, because I am afraid of the rumored 4 year extension. If money is a concern for him, then the Blues may have to pay it forward on the next contract. That could end up being a pretty bad deal for decent term in exchange for one good year. If being closer to his son is worth millions of dollars to him, then maybe the extension won't be as bad. I could care less about the situation with his son outside of how it effects the future roster construction and cap for my favorite team going forward. Many people had spoken about his son as a reason for wanting to be there. I thought it may be public knowledge I just wasn't aware. Its not like I care where he went on vacation, who he is currently dating, or any other trivial details about celebrities that are always on the internet.
I only wanted to know why he would give up a 3x$3.5 offer to play on McDavid's wing for a 1x$1.7M offer to start on the Blues 4th line. I am sure he is not the only NHL player with less than ideal custody arrangements for their child. Why can't he do what they do? Or why is it more important to him to give up so much than it is for anyone else? I've never once heard of an athlete turning down more money than he has as of yet made in his career.
In terms of selfishness, I would think, barring abuse or something of the sort, being close to both parents would be in the child's best interest. If he gives her a huge bump in child support to make it easier on her to facilitate that, is it really selfish? It is by definition selfish for her to make him give up millions to see his child, although it is completely understandable. Still, that decision would be concerned with her own happiness, and not his and potentially not the child's. Making the offer to compensate her for uprooting her life, makes both parents more financially secure and gives the child access to both parents. That seems like a win-win in the abstract without knowing the details
As for me, I don't have any kids, so I don't need a relationship with my exes. Also, I gave up a decent paying job at a law firm to run a not-for-profit corporation where I make half as much. So money isn't my prime motivator, and I understand taking less money for other concerns. However, if the amount were $2M a year less, I'd be a lawyer who donates money to my not-for-profit's cause. Money isn't everything, but it can solve a lot of problems. But you really seem overly concerned about my personal life, almost uncomfortably so. Asking about my relationship with my exes maybe isn't appropriate for a hockey forum
I get what you are saying, just personally feel that speculating about kids and custody arrangements is going too far. But we're all entitled to our opinions. Fans so often focus on the business side of it, the money and whatnot, but in the end we have no idea what's going on in each guy's head or why they make the decisions they do. But it's nice to know that it's not always about money for some guys.
Maybe Maroon isn't an exciting player on the ice, but hopefully he can be a good addition to the group of guys we have on the team and in the community. I look forward to having him on the team, and most of the comments from Oilers and Devils fans seem pretty positive, especially in terms of his character.
And, we are talking as if he has already signed. What if he's just using STL as leverage to get a bigger deal from the Devils or whoever. That would be cold!
bleedblue1223
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The last time I was this excited was when I heard we re-signed Sundqvist. Maybe he should take another year to mull it over. To be fair, it is kinda exciting if it gives a higher probability to a trade being made. Maybe we can trade Sundqvist for a 7th round pick in 2050.
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Schwartz - Schenn - Perron/Steen
O’Reilly - Thomas - Tarasenko (ROR takes faceoffs)
Fabbri - Bozak - Steen/Perron
Maroon - Barbashev - Soshnikov
Based on a lineup DA proposed in one of his press conferences.
The more I think about Thomas w/ ROR and Tank, the more I think like it.
Maroon will add bite and play up in the lineup depending on the situations and during injuries.
Love this depth. Great job DA.
O’Reilly - Thomas - Tarasenko (ROR takes faceoffs)
Fabbri - Bozak - Steen/Perron
Maroon - Barbashev - Soshnikov
Based on a lineup DA proposed in one of his press conferences.
The more I think about Thomas w/ ROR and Tank, the more I think like it.
Maroon will add bite and play up in the lineup depending on the situations and during injuries.
Love this depth. Great job DA.
7even
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Nice off-season St Louis is having. Sleeper contender if Allen can get his shit together.
rumrokh
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Expect O'Reilly at center unless Thomas really wows them in preseason. I think Armstrong's idea was for that line to come together by mid-season because they want to bring Thomas along instead of throwing him in the deep end. But we'll see.
Also, don't be surprised if Sanford nudges Barbashev out of the opening night lineup.
