#StastnyWatch - Summer of 2014 - Part I

[Stories]

I am very much in the other camp. I would be pleasantly surprised to see Stastny re-sign with the Avalanche, but I expect him to sign elsewhere.

Do you get a sense of whether he wants to try elsewhere in particular (e.g. St Louis) or do you think he'll just go where he gets the most money?

 

[TheFactor]

I don't see why Staz would want to sign elsewhere. Most of the teams that are better than us can't afford him, and the Avs are tending upwards. He's been here for a long time and it looks like he had a lot of fun this season. I think he resigns.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Do you get a sense of whether he wants to try elsewhere in particular (e.g. St Louis) or do you think he'll just go where he gets the most money?

I won't do that, sorry. Anything I've posted for the past year is just my "fan thinking."

 

[Hasbro]

In free agency some team is going to offer him $7-$7.5 million.

He's gone.

Should have moved him at the deadline. Another mistake by Sakic.

Way to walk away from Bozak and a 2nd Stupor Joe!

 

[Freudian]

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Nothing has changed. Stastny was never going to re-sign before July 1st. His agent would be downright Pejorative Slured if he signed anything before the market opens.

Not sure why everybody begins to panic over a Strickland rumor. Same status as the past year. Avs want to keep him, Stastny wouldn't mind staying, but any person with half a brain in his shoes would wait until free agency. Let's calm down.

Plenty of UFAs re-sign before July 1st. Not every player and agent uses brinkmanship as their main negotiating tool.

If Stastny wants to stay and Avs want him stay, there is no reason why this couldn't be done earlier.

 

[henchman21]

I don't see why Staz would want to sign elsewhere. Most of the teams that are better than us can't afford him, and the Avs are tending upwards. He's been here for a long time and it looks like he had a lot of fun this season. I think he resigns.

IMO Anaheim is the big contender. St Louis is in a similar situation to the Avs where they still have some holes to fill in the lineup, and their window is much closer to ending than the Avs. Anaheim on the other hand is basically a 2nd line from competing for the cup for the next 4-5 years, and they have players coming up to fill in perfectly around Stastny and no real cap issues going forward.

I will say one thing about this though... while it would hurt, and the team would be significantly worse next year, this team is setup perfectly to replace Stastny. MacK can move back to center then Tangs and Landy can insulate him defensively, and the Avs have the cap space to go after a good defensive center to help replace Stastny's shutdown abilities.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Plenty of UFAs re-sign before July 1st. Not every player and agent uses brinkmanship as their main negotiating tool.

If Stastny wants to stay and Avs want him stay, there is no reason why this couldn't be done earlier.

This is what I think too. Absent any information I'm not aware of this seems most logical. If he wants to stay and gets a decent offer then it's irrelevant what another team would offer.

 

[CrimsonPuma*]

His playoff performance is gonna make him a much bigger target.

I would be shocked if he doesn't at least test the free agent waters.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

He will get over 7mil per year if he goes to another team.
I would consider anything under 6.8 a hometown discount and would glady take him back if that's what it costs.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

This is what I think too. Absent any information I'm not aware of this seems most logical. If he wants to stay and gets a decent offer then it's irrelevant what another team would offer.

That's a nice, romantic way of looking at it, sure.

 

[Makemeasandwhich]

That's a nice, romantic way of looking at it, sure.

Wait, do you think he will walk?

 

[Freudian]

That's a nice, romantic way of looking at it, sure.

So why did Phaneuf, Getzlaf, Perry and multitude of others sign before July 1st? They have incompetent agents?

If the player wants to stay it's just a matter of agreeing on a number. It's not necessarily easy but doesn't automatically have the player going to free agency to put pressure on the team. Not all negotiations are inherently adversarial.

 

[S E P H]

So why did Phaneuf, Getzlaf, Perry and multitude of others sign before July 1st? They have incompetent agents?

If the player wants to stay it's just a matter of agreeing on a number. It's not necessarily easy but doesn't automatically have the player going to free agency to put pressure on the team. Not all negotiations are inherently adversarial.

This is how I see it too, Stostny seems like he wants to stay.

 

[Avs]

A Blues beat writer reported it and his "those closest to the Avs" source is probably Dater.

I'm not believing this for a second until I see additional, more reliable sources.

 

[Hans Landaskog]

I know how we can address our depth issues. Trade MacKinnon.

 

[Stories]

That's a nice, romantic way of looking at it, sure.

If I were Staz, I'd go for the most security and nicest offer. These guys have such a short career, it seems silly not to go with the offer that makes the most sense for them. The Avs will need to field a competitive offer if they really want to keep Staz. That said, let's cross our fingers that Staz's best option is staying in Denver.

 

[zxcvnm]

He will get over 7mil per year if he goes to another team.
I would consider anything under 6.8 a hometown discount and would glady take him back if that's what it costs.

Following the 2015-2016 season (2 seasons from now), the Avs will have some major contracts to extend. They'll have to extend MacKinnon and Erik Johnson. Ryan O'Reilly will be commanding a handsome sum by that time as well. Tyson Barrie will be more expensive then too, either coming off his bridge deal or from a long-term deal he signs this summer. Yes, Parenteau's and Tanguay's contracts will be coming off the books then, but we still have to replace them. We also will hopefully have another top pairing defenseman to put with Johnson by that time and he won't come cheap either.

Even with the cap going up, it will be a tight fit. Honestly, I think 6.8mil with a NTC (which I think will be a sticking point for him), could hamstring us. If he demands north of 6mil, quite frankly I think the Avs balk.

I don't want to lose Stastny, but this team is equipped to replace him. However, if we do let him go, it's absolutely essential we find a way to replace his salary with a top pairing defenseman either this offseason or the next one.

 

[Hasbro]

I know how we can address our depth issues. Trade MacKinnon.

Damn I wish that hadn't been wiped from the trade board. It was hilarious.

 

[tigervixxxen]

That's a nice, romantic way of looking at it, sure.

Well I said absent information I don't have and used the word IF, so yeah it is logical.

If he wants to go, he'll go. If the Avs lowball him, he'll go. I'm aware of that.

 

[The Pwnerer]

Hometown discount or bust, lets hope Peter Stastny isn't upset at the Avalanche for trading Captain Kirk and manbearpig anymore.

 

[Hans Landaskog]

I'd be okay losing Stastny.

as long as Vanek signs here

 

[Avs_19]

Should be interesting. I'm in the group that thinks Stastny will likely wait to see what other offers are out there before signing. It makes very little sense for him to do otherwise. No one knows what's going on behind the scenes so I could be wrong here but I doubt the Avs are prepared to pay him more than Duchene and give him the best offer he can possibly get. There's probably at least one other team out there that will give him over $6M/yr and then he'll have a decision to make.

I don't think Getzlaf, Perry, Phaneuf, etc are really relevant here. Getzlaf and Perry's cap hits puts them in the top 5 in the NHL among forwards, they're making Crosby money. Phaneuf is top 5 among defensemen. It was probably an easy decision for those guys to sign when they did. Stastny won't be getting some ridiculous offer from the Avs that he can't refuse. It's smart for him to wait.

 

[CrimsonPuma*]

I think that Walnuts will stay, but wouldn't blame him for signing else where for more money. This is his prime money making years and has earned the right to capitalize on his earning potential.

 

[Ceremony]

Stastny's made nearly 35 million dollars over his NHL career before the age of 30. If money, and it's not like he'd be paid poorly by Colorado, is his primary motivation in this next deal, he's free to go wherever he pleases.

 

[CrimsonPuma*]

Stastny's made nearly 35 million dollars over his NHL career before the age of 30. If money, and it's not like he'd be paid poorly by Colorado, is his primary motivation in this next deal, he's free to go wherever he pleases.

If will never get another chance to make this kind of money. If some team is willing to pay him $7/8M, he would be stupid not to.