Pre-Game Talk: Stanley Cup Final: New York Rangers vs. Los Angeles Kings

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Levitate

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One thing I noticed about LA is they get a TON of players in front of the net. Rangers D will have to work them over and limit the traffic.

Eh, every team has tried that against the Rangers. Every team has talked about doing that to the Rangers. You had one of the outright best front of the net players in the league in Simmonds stopped cold outside of one game.

The Rangers will have to step up their game no doubt but players crashing the net and making life hard for Lundqvist is standard "how to try to play the Rangers 101" and they're used to it
 

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It should also be noted that Duncan Keith DID NOT look healthy in that last series at all. He was shying away from contact and doing fly by's most of the series.
 

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It was a 4-1 series. They swept St. Louis and beat Vancouver in 5.

RongoBoi pls

So basically their longest playoff series was against the supposed weak Eastern Conference team? Nice
 

KingWantsCup

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Must. Take. Game. 1.

If the Kings are still fatigued at all it will show most in game 1. Doubtful the Kings surrender both their home games to start the series. Really, really have to capitalize in game 1. Loser of game 1 also has to sit on that loss for two days which is awful.
 

Bleed Ranger Blue

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Must. Take. Game. 1.

If the Kings are still fatigued at all it will show most in game 1. Doubtful the Kings surrender both their home games to start the series. Really, really have to capitalize in game 1. Loser of game 1 also has to sit on that loss for two days which is awful.

Ill take a split in LA any way it comes
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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Must. Take. Game. 1.

If the Kings are still fatigued at all it will show most in game 1. Doubtful the Kings surrender both their home games to start the series. Really, really have to capitalize in game 1. Loser of game 1 also has to sit on that loss for two days which is awful.

The two day break benefits the loser.
 

FJB

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Staal worries me more than any Ranger right now. He was a mess last round and it wasn't just him having trouble with the Habs speed, he just flat out made a lot of poor decisions.

Which Staal shows up will have a huge impact on the outcome of the series. The margin for error is going to be small.

Staal has not been the same since returning from the injury.
 

BlueshirtBlitz

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So, who is the best team in hockey?

Considering how thin the gap is between the top teams in the league, it's foolish to try and discuss who is the best. I have no problem if you want to deem the cup winner the "best" but I think it's absolutely acceptable to look at the myriad of data available before that as well.

It doesn't seem a little odd to you, that if the Pittsburgh got a lucky bounce and scored on us in Games 5 or 6 when we were down 3-1, that they would be considered better than us right now? Despite the fact that all we've heard for the past two weeks is how that was an inconsequential match-up for the Rangers?

It's much easier to realize who isn't as good as the results may indicate: Minny/Habs this year, 11-12 Devs, 09-10 Habs, etc.
 

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Slats hadn't seen McD play before trading for him. Relied on the word of Gorton and Gordie, who had.
 

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Staal has not been the same since returning from the injury.

From what injury?

Thought he played some of the best hockey of his career in the first 2 series when McDonagh was out to lunch. Now Staal has a bad series and its tied to an injury? Hogwash.
 

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It doesn't seem a little odd to you, that if the Pittsburgh got a lucky bounce and scored on us in Games 5 or 6 when we were down 3-1, that they would be considered better than us right now? Despite the fact that all we've heard for the past two weeks is how that was an inconsequential match-up for the Rangers?

It doesn't seem odd to me that a lucky bounce and the Pens would be considered better than the Rangers. There really is only one way to objectively decide which team is the best team in the league, and that's the team who wins the last game on the season. Every other way is subject to interpretation. All data can be manipulated and broken down to each shift of every game, of which there were, what, 1,230 regular season + playoff games, which accumulated billions of data? Keep is simple. There is a format for winning the Stanley Cup. Everyone accepts that format and the team that wins the fourth game in the finals series is the Cup winner. The goal of each team and of every player is to be the winner. The ultimate winner, in my mind, is the best. I don't care about injuries, bounces, bad calls and what ifs. The what ifs didn't happen and there are an infinite amount of them.Team who wins the last game, no matter how they got there, or who they played, is the best team. In my mind.

EDIT: I guess I'm trying to determine the universal best, or most accepted best, and easily arguable best, which, of course, is subjective.
 

FJB

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From what injury?

Thought he played some of the best hockey of his career in the first 2 series when McDonagh was out to lunch. Now Staal has a bad series and its tied to an injury? Hogwash.

He played well in the first couple rounds, but to me, something has seemed very "off" about him since he started wearing the shield
 

BarbaraAlphanse

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Man I hate listening to Barry Melrose talking about the Rangers. He is unapologetically biased against us.
 
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