It’s funny, the moves that Bowman likely hung himself with occurred a few years ago. He had a very solid offseason.
Nylander has impressed, Maatta has been solid, Kahun has done nothing, DeHaan was acquired for peanuts. Anisimov for Smith is a cap dump.
He’s drafted well, he could have fired the coach sooner, but at least it was done.
But that Seabrook contract gets him fired. Trading Panarin and Hammer reeks of upper management interference. The core has given up.
If you want a Bowman fired, then fine. But I hope you people b****ing understand that it’s not going to get better until the core is told to GTFO. And a new GM is unlikely to be able to do that.
"... This is for rational discussion only.
I love how people still convince themselves he’s a good GM with huge blunders like (Saad/Anisimov)/Seabrok/TT/Hammer/Panarin/Schmaltz/Danault/ etc. A lot of these guys should have been part of the new core, even a guy like Danault was never replaced to this day. TT is looking amazing in Carolina, Saad should have never left to begin with, now we have Smith as a baggage and we lost Panarin for two years because of it. There is a lot residual junk from his pathetic moves over the last 4 years till this day and he’s not stoping...
"... I’m just saying it also relates to resigning Seabrook. Without Seabrook, there wouldn’t have even been a pressing need to move 1 year of Bickell, let alone overpay to do it...
Note to self - You typed you weren't sane enough to participate in this thread, then participated - twice.
So what you're saying here is that the Hawks have played less games then everybody else? Neat.
Yeah but Caggs for ManDog more than balances the scales for all those stinkers you point out.
That deal alone - in my book - gets Bowman jr GM For Life!
'Course it was Bowman jr who signed Boxcar65's besty in the first place, but let's not PICK APART every trade.
PS - Luvya Boxy you know that, bro.
But that Seabrook contract gets him fired. Trading Panarin and Hammer reeks of upper management interference. The core has given up..
if the Hawks miss the playoffs I will leave HF until season starts next year...if Hawks make the playoffs you leave HF until season starts next year...what say you big guy??Oh what a bunch of bull****
You really think Mcd forced Stan to trade away young superstar fan favorite and 3 time cup winning core member of team? That literally makes no ****ing sense
Stan had a hissy fit after Hawks lost to Preds and wanted to make dramatic moves and he is the idiot who pulled trigger on those awful deals and it is not anyone else to blame for his mistakes
Also it was clear Bowman made the Hammer deal without consulting Q so it was just another part of the Q/Bowman power struggle
Oh what a bunch of bull****
You really think Mcd forced Stan to trade away young superstar fan favorite and 3 time cup winning core member of team? That literally makes no ****ing sense
Stan had a hissy fit after Hawks lost to Preds and wanted to make dramatic moves and he is the idiot who pulled trigger on those awful deals and it is not anyone else to blame for his mistakes
Also it was clear Bowman made the Hammer deal without consulting Q so it was just another part of the Q/Bowman power struggle
if the Hawks miss the playoffs I will leave HF until season starts next year...if Hawks make the playoffs you leave HF until season starts next year...what say you big guy??
I take Murphy over Hammer 360 days per year twice on Sunday..no damn doubt about it.No thanks
I love you guys too much to leave
Also what about the post you quoted? Does it make sense this "MCD forced Stan" narrative? Nope not even in the slightest
The Panarin and Hammer deals were all 100% on Stanley and it backfired
It’s funny, the moves that Bowman likely hung himself with occurred a few years ago. He had a very solid offseason.
Nylander has impressed, Maatta has been solid, Kahun has done nothing, DeHaan was acquired for peanuts. Anisimov for Smith is a cap dump.
He’s drafted well, he could have fired the coach sooner, but at least it was done.
But that Seabrook contract gets him fired. Trading Panarin and Hammer reeks of upper management interference. The core has given up.
If you want a Bowman fired, then fine. But I hope you people b****ing understand that it’s not going to get better until the core is told to GTFO. And a new GM is unlikely to be able to do that.
I now call this HT (hot take) boards..no longer HF BoardHF Hawks. Serving up hot takes like IHOP serves pancakes, since 2016.
I take Murphy over Hammer 360 days per year twice on Sunday..no damn doubt about it.
Panarin deal sucked, but we couldn't afford him anyways and now we have our best player in Saad because of it and they have nothing. I never defended the Panarin trade but anyone thinking logically can understand the motives behind it.
I hated trading Danault away, because he seemed like what we needed for years...I didn't like Bowman for that trade..the TT trade was discussed to death.
Seabrook deal is brutal and the outlier to everything else we have done the past 4 years...I am sure McD has a say in that signings like every other VP or President of Hockey Ops would for every organization...still doesn't absorb it from Bowman's ledger.
If Bowman got fired tomorrow I wouldn't lose sleep...
BUT...
Nylander for Joker is a trade I keep making - Nylander looks great and is only going to be getting more ice time. he has been one of the better forwards with limited ice time we have.
Caggiula for Man Dog was criminal - there is a case in Edmonton going to court over how bad the trade was..
Kubalik was an absolute beautiful signing..
Maatta for Kahun was ****ing robbery...jail sentence still awaiting..
De Haan for Forsling and Forsberg....hahahahahahaha.......hahahahahahahaha.......
Carpenter signing was excellent - he brings a lot to the table.
Gus signed for barely $1.2 mil for 2 damn years - that was ridiculous when the narrative was to punt on him..
brought in a top 4 dman in Kempny that unfortunately your hero couldn't figure out how to use but goes on to win a Cup..playing top 4 minutes...who knew right??
Drafted Dach 3rd despite most of us thinking someone else...he has been wonderful so far..
Strome for Schmaltz still a lot of hockey to be determined..
so yeah if you focus on the gloom then you miss all the good which is what you do anyway...but if you can't acknowledge the good and only focus on the bad nobody will ever take your **** seriously.