Dache
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- Feb 12, 2018
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The bolded is just ridiculous. The "fancy" numbers comment kind of proves my whole point, and you are the one saying it it I who is not providing context????
The "fancy" numbers do provide context! It takes a 105-point season and completely eliminates the gap between the 81-point season. Once you're done, the debate becomes totally legitimate, especially when you realize both are top-line players who are consistently matched up against the opposing top matchups.
What's so "fancy" about goals/60? It's literally goals scored against ice time.
Pastrnak averaged 1.27 goals/60
Draisaitl averaged 1.22 goals/60
What's so "fancy" about individual scoring chances/60? It's literally scoring chances against ice time.
Pastrnak averaged 8.36 iSC/60
Draisaitl averaged 6.57 iSC/60
What's so "fancy" about penalties drawn/60? It's literally what the stat says -- how many penalties you're forcing opponents to take every 3 games or so.
Pastrnak averaged 1.46 PD/60
Draisaitl averaged 0.91 PD/60
And I clearly explained the Draisaitl comment -- that McDavid helped him go from being an excellent player to a superstar, but it's only been one year. If he regresses back to 30/70 or slumps and is taken off his line, then you are totally ignorant if you think the perception towards Draisaitl doesn't change from elite player to very good or above average. Same thing happened to Jonathan Cheechoo (Thornton), Adam Graves (Messier), Rob Brown (Mario) etc etc.
Perception is reality. The perception outside of Edmonton is that Draisaitl hit 50 and 100 mainly because he plays with McDavid. That doesn't mean he won't make AS teams or the HOF, or that he isn't one of the game's elite talents. He was a high pick and has lived up to expectations.
So even if I threw out the relative stats, the rate stats clearly show that the two players are incredibly close or equal, and the study certainly doesn't deserve discrediting because a homer is mad at his guy being ranked 8th versus being ranked 7th.
Sounds like we have a new p/60 champ. But in all seriousness. I’ve seen you defend some of your rankings using just last years stats, some you’ve used the last 2 years, some you didn’t use last year at all, it has sounded fairly wishy washy. If it’s just an opinion then say it as such.