So much for the 'Sh-t Northern Division' narrative.

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The North division is bad precisely because the Habs are the ones who made it out
I'd say the exact opposite. If Toronto or Edmonton or Winnipeg had been the team that made it out, Vegas would have dominated them, and the series could well be over. Montreal
being the team with the most depth and best built for the playoffs, not only was it fairly clear that they would be the team still playing, but they are the only one likely to give Vegas a real battle, and consequently show that the North does have at least one good team.
 

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Lehner had a couple of good saves, but he wasn't seriously tested nearly often enough. The Habs made him look good for the most part.
 

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Look everyone, one stop eating to make some Salt.:laugh:

Habs fans made this thread saying that the "north division sucks" story line is false after only winning two games. Now if they Won the series this would have been the perfect thread. To bad this baby was premature.
Look everyone - a fan of the worst team in the North Division somehow thinks that saying that the best team in his division is really terrible somehow makes his team better.

Actually, the more you try to insult Montreal, the more you are really insulting Ottawa.
 
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The verdict will come next season. Comparing the results of the North teams before and after the Canadian bubble will be a better test of quality, than from a single matchup against one team. The sample size is too small. For example: playoff Price standing on his head four games is not enough to tell me how good/bad Winnipeg or Calgary was. If four teams from the north make the playoffs next year it would be hard to support the claim of it being a weak division (Unless they all barely make it - all things being equal they should have a distribution where two teams are top 8 in the standings). It will be interesting to see.
 

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2021 Scotia North Division was the weakest division in hockey and always will be just accept it. Even if the Habs win the Cup that won't change the fact that the division sucked.
 

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Yak Yak Yak!!

Oh, the Northern Division sucks..... they said

Blah Blah Blah!!!!


win or lose, the Habs have already proven the Northern division was/is right on par with the rest.
I think using four games to say anything has been "already proven" with respect to the overall quality of divisions that consisted of 7-8 teams is a dangerous misuse of statistics.
 

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2021 Scotia North Division was the weakest division in hockey and always will be just accept it. Even if the Habs win the Cup that won't change the fact that the division sucked.
It's like the 2006 St.Louis Cardinals won the world series, but the Toronto Blue Jays not only had a better record, but they didn't even qualify for the playoffs. The Cardinals were in a bad division just like the Habs are even if they win the cup.
 

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Is this referring to the Habs or Islanders. It works for both
Not really. The Islanders had 71 points to the Habs 59 points. The Habs finished 4 points up on Calgary for the last playoff spot while the Islanders were 11 points up on a surprising NYR team. The Islanders were also easily a playoff team and a final four team in the playoff the prior year while Montreal would not have made the playoffs the year before in a normal season.
It’s not a good analogy.
 

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Not really. The Islanders had 71 points to the Habs 59 points. The Habs finished 4 points up on Calgary for the last playoff spot while the Islanders were 11 points up on a surprising NYR team. The Islanders were also easily a playoff team and a final four team in the playoff the prior year while Montreal would not have made the playoffs the year before in a normal season.
It’s not a good analogy.
Well are the Habs better than the Avs because they are giving Vegas a tougher time than the Avs did. That west division looks weak. 4 bottom feeders and their top team is struggling with a Habs team that you claim wouldn't be able to make the playoffs in another division. weird.
 
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Well are the Habs better than the Avs because they are giving Vegas a tougher time than the Avs did. That west division looks weak. 4 bottom feeders and their top team is struggling with a Habs team that you claim wouldn't be able to make the playoffs in another division. weird.
I merely rebutted your claim that the NYI and the Habs were analogous situations. I never claimed the Habs wouldn't be able to make the playoffs in another Division. I said they wouldn't have made the playoffs the year before this season. Which is factually true.
Weird indeed.
 

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I merely rebutted your claim that the NYI and the Habs were analogous situations. I never claimed the Habs wouldn't be able to make the playoffs in another Division. I said they wouldn't have made the playoffs the year before this season. Which is factually true.
Weird indeed.
why are you bringing up stats from other seasons? Vancouver went as far as the Avalanche in last years playoffs. seems irrelevant to bring that up this year. weird indeed. You seem to be cherry picking stats instead of using the only metric we have that shows us how teams from other divisions look against eachother. Habs should have been swept according to half of you on here, meanwhile the Knights/Avs padded their stats feasting on the weak pacific teams all year but that never gets mentioned.
 
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why are you bringing up stats from other seasons? Vancouver went as far as the Avalanche in last years playoffs. seems irrelevant to bring that up this year. weird indeed. You seem to be cherry picking stats instead of using the only metric we have that shows us how teams from other divisions look against eachother. Habs should have been swept according to half of you on here, meanwhile the Knights/Avs padded their stats feasting on the weak pacific teams all year but that never gets mentioned.
Lol! You’re moving the goalposts and making up things to argue about after being proven wrong on your original poorly thought out post comparing the Islanders and Habs. We’re done here. Have a great day.
 
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Look at the three teams that got eliminated. All went out looking incredibly inept. Case closed.
 
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Lol! You’re moving the goalposts and making up things to argue about after being proven wrong on your original poorly thought out post comparing the Islanders and Habs. We’re done here. Have a great day.
lol you definitely didn't. Isles are a 4 seed who got looked over in every round they played in this year, now you're acting like they are some powerhouse. People had them losing in 5 to the Pens, and bruins and had no chance vs Tampa. Now look at them. You still have no answer for calling a division weak when the team representing their division is tied with a so called powerhouse. Habs had to crawl back to knock off the Leafs in 7 while Lehner needed to steal last nights game to get the series tied back up vs Montreal. Seems the "north Is Weak" got way overblown lol. Wasn't this series supposed to be over after 4 games?? why are they still playing?
 

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This thread is mostly fans of other eliminated Canadian teams looking for validation that their team really wasn’t that bad this year.
Spoiler alert: they were bad. Montreal making it to the final four (when one Canadian team was guaranteed to make it) and playing very well against Vegas doesn’t change that.
 
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Well are the Habs better than the Avs because they are giving Vegas a tougher time than the Avs did. That west division looks weak. 4 bottom feeders and their top team is struggling with a Habs team that you claim wouldn't be able to make the playoffs in another division. weird.
Not sure how the Habs are giving Vegas a tougher time? They’re in the exact same spot after 4 games. Habs also never had a 2-0 series lead. Colorado was 6 minutes away from going up 3-0 in the series.
 
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Not sure how the Habs are giving Vegas a tougher time? They’re in the exact same spot after 4 games. Habs also never had a 2-0 series lead. Colorado was 6 minutes away from going up 3-0 in the series.
Vegas controlled every game other than game 1 vs the Avs . Habs and Vegas have been going back and forth. Fleury threw a game away and Lehner came back to steal one last night. Habs have been a strong team whenever they had a full roster. Their record took a hit when COVID ran through their roster and they had to make up weeks worth of games just to finish the season relatively on time.
 

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