So does Toronto now have the best centers in the league?

[Frankie Blueberries]

Crosby - Malkin are definitely better.
McDavid - Draisatl are better.
An argument can be made for Backstrom - Kuznetsov, especially since they just won a Cup.
Buffalo are in contention with Eichel, Mittelstadt, Reinhart, ROR, etc.

 

[Doyoulikeapples*]

Because the rest of the team isn't?
Oilers have 2 great centers to build Around but the supporting cast is misbuilt. Have you not paid attention to outside your Toronto bubble?

I have , it’s just hard to notice them all the way at the bottom of the league LOLLOLOLLL apples baby. You like em ?

 

[Menzinger]

I agree not sustainable as I think Nylander gets moved either this off season or next for sure. They need cap to sign Mathews, Marner and a competent top 4 dman yet. See what happens .

I’d say the odds of Nylander being moved for cap reasons are next to none.

Marleau will be coming off the books within 2 years at the latest, Martin too.

 

[Revelation]

This is a joke right?

Kadri is much much better than Eller.

I'd take Matthews over Kuzy and Tavares over Backstrom.

Of course you would you'd take a pile of dogshit over any caps player.

But yeah guy who just scored the most playoff points since Malkin is worse than a guy who needed an intervention from his coach because of how much he folded in the playoffs. And 80 point one dimensional center >> 80 point all around selke caliber center

 

[CycloneSweep]

I have , it’s just hard to notice them all the way at the bottom of the league LOLLOLOLLL apples baby. You like em ?

What?

 

[Doyoulikeapples*]

What?

Do you like apples ?

 

[Killer Orcas]

I’d say the odds of Nylander being moved for cap reasons are next to none.

Marleau will be coming off the books within 2 years at the latest, Martin too.

I disagree but who knows. Mathews and Marner plus Nylander will cost 25 million plus Tavares now that's alot for 4 guys.

 

[PensandCaps]

Of course you would you'd take a pile of dog**** over any caps player.

But yeah guy who just scored the most playoff points since Malkin is worse than a guy who needed an intervention from his coach because of how much he folded in the playoffs. And 80 point one dimensional center >> 80 point all around selke caliber center

You said Eller=Kadri.

You're so far off from reality, It's funny.

Btw I hate Toronto much more than the Caps. Infact I'd rather have the Caps repeat than see Toronto ever win a cup.

 

[Doyoulikeapples*]

I disagree but who knows. Mathews and Marner plus Nylander will cost 25 million plus Tavares now that's alot for 4 guys.

Makes no sense to move nylander though he’s a winger. Right now we have 3 deadly combos of :
Matthews nylander
Tavares marner
Kadri Marleau

 

[LordZapp]

Crosby - Malkin are definitely better.
McDavid - Draisatl are better.
An argument can be made for Backstrom - Kuznetsov, especially since they just won a Cup.
Buffalo are in contention with Eichel, Mittelstadt, Reinhart, ROR, etc.

One of these is not like the other.

 

[Revelation]

You said Eller=Kadri.

You're so far off from reality, It's funny.

Kadri may put up a few more points in the regular season but he folds in the playoffs and is utterly unreliable as he tends to go berserk. All it takes is one smart agitator like Tommy Wingels or Tom Wilson and Kadri is effectively working for the other team.

Keep at it and one day you'll have more than a surface grasp of the sport, I promise.

 

[ottawa]

WAIT so mcdavid - drai is also now better than Tavares Matthews ?? BAHAHA. I mean I knew Tavares would become trash after signing with the leafs but this is just golden stuff.

McDavid >> Matthews
Draisaitl ≤ Tavares

 

[rent free]

Makes no sense to move nylander though he’s a winger. Right now we have 3 deadly combos of :
Matthews nylander
Tavares marner
Kadri Marleau

they can't afford them all and have a competent defense

 

[AvatarAang]

McDavid - Draisatl are better.

Matthews - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
Tavares - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
McDavid - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
Draisaitl- plays with McDavid, can't drive offense on his own line.

Penguins are the only team with better Cs than the Leafs.

 

[Menzinger]

I disagree but who knows. Mathews and Marner plus Nylander will cost 25 million plus Tavares now that's alot for 4 guys.

It is, but it’s better to spend on bluechip assets who are actually worth that money than spreading out the cap on a bunch of B and C level guys.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Absolutely, not up for debate, Kadri is the best 3rd line center in the NHL

 

[Plural]

Sid an Geno are the best and it's not close.

McDavid+Drai (if Draisaitl plays #2C that is), Backs and Kuzy & Tavares and Matthews are on the next tier.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Matthews - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
Tavares - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
McDavid - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
Draisaitl- plays with McDavid, can't drive offense on his own line.

Penguins are the only team with better Cs than the Leafs.

Nylander and Marner are scrubs?

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

Easily, but lets not forget that many people have an irrational hatred of the Leafs so our talent is always downplayed.

Toronto now has TWO #1 elite centres on its team Matthews & Tavares to go along with Marner, Nylander, Marleau and company. I personally don't see a better forward crop than Toronto.

With Andersen's solid goaltending and our D which isn't as bad as people make it out to be the Leafs are now a legitimate contender as much as any other.

And you wonder why? You basically just said Matthews, Tavares over Crosby and Malkin, neither of those players are even close to Crosby or Malkin... See the issue that other fans have is that many Leaf fans brag and are over cocky to the point where they look illogical in many different arguments.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Matthews - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
Tavares - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
McDavid - plays with scrubs. drives offense on his own line.
Draisaitl- plays with McDavid, can't drive offense on his own line.

Penguins are the only team with better Cs than the Leafs.

McDavid and Draisatl make an impact in the playoffs.

 

[PensandCaps]

Kadri may put up a few more points in the regular season but he folds in the playoffs and is utterly unreliable as he tends to go berserk. All it takes is one smart agitator like Tommy Wingels or Tom Wilson and Kadri is effectively working for the other team.

Keep at it and one day you'll have more than a surface grasp of the sport, I promise.

You keep holding on to small sample sizes to judge players.


Matthews scores at the same pace as Kuzy but scores much more goals and scores alot better at EV strength. And please don't use "he folds in the playoffs" based off a few games.

Remeber when Kuzy had 2 points in 12 games in a playoff run.

It's all too small of a sample to judge players off of..

Tavares and Backstrom both score at around the same pace. Except one scores more goals and does it with Josh Bailey and Pa Parenteau as his main wings. And Tavares is not a one dimensional C. That's one of the most absurd things ive seen.

All 3 Maple leaf Cs are better than the Caps Cs head to head.

 

[LordZapp]

Nylander and Marner are scrubs?

Pretty sure he was talking about his linemates in NYI

 

[CycloneSweep]

Pretty sure he was talking about his linemates in NYI

And I am talking about Matthews lol

 

[tapi]

It's very close but as of now the Pens still have it. Re-evaluation is in order by the end of the next season. I am confident that by that time the Leafs have this by a clear margin, but only time will tell

 

[LordZapp]

And I am talking about Matthews lol

Oh true that. My bad lol