So does Toronto now have the best centers in the league?

[PensandCaps]

Massive edge to kadri you mean. Jooris will be on the Marlies, we don’t have a 4C right now so it remains to be seen

I mean...barley..both are 50 point Cs. But what Kadri brings Defensivly can't be ignored.

 

[MardyBum]

When the top 3 are Matthews Tavares and Kadri the 4th line guy doesn't matter, I'd like Brian Gibbons but again the 4th line guy doesn't matter in this case.

When you're arguing against two of the top 3 C's in the league, you should care.

 

[AutisticGoat]

Toronto wont make it to playoffs and islanders win the cup next season, im afraid

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Until your fourth line get's scored on every time they touch the ice...

I am sure they will be fine for the 6 minutes a game they will play

 

[Puckstuff]

Matthews and Tavares should realistically both be point per game in a good year. Kadri 30/30. So the answer is probably top 3 minimum.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Winnipeg Jets say hi.

Why they saying hi. Did they re-sign Stasny?

 

[PensandCaps]

Matthews who has yet to score 70 points and can barely get along with Babcock because of how much he half asses everything else is better than Kuzy... my ****ing sides.

Tavares who has been surpassed by Barzal his rookie season is better than Backstrom, who is good for PPG with anybody and is a shutdown player to boot... sure lol

Pens fans really need to let it go, the playoffs were like 2 months ago

Tavares outscored Backstrom by 12 points playing with Josh Bailey.

Also. Saying Matthews has yet to score 70 points is misleading and you know it.

Matthews scores more goals than Kuzy...scores points at the same pace. All while being a much superior 5v5 player and very good defensively.

And Kadri is so far ahead of Eller it's funny.


I couldn't care less about the Caps winning. I wanted them too. Was cheering hard for Ovi.

 

[dellzor]

I can already tell.. I'm going to hate Leafs fans even more now

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[T REX]

Sad sad sad...

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Let's take a look at what would happen if they all continued with their career-average production to date:

TOR - Matthews (75.17 points) + Tavares (76.17 points) + Kadri (52.59 points) = 203.93 points
PIT - Crosby (105.92 points) + Malkin (97.27 points) + Brassard (49.02 points) = 252.21 points


How about over the past 3 season?

TOR - Matthews (75.17 points) + Tavares (76.12 points) + Kadri (55.47 points) = 206.76 points
PIT - Crosby (91.00 points) + Malkin (94.90 points) + Brassard (50.33 points) = 236.23 points


And the past 2 seasons?

TOR - Matthews (75.17 points) + Tavares (77.36 points) + Kadri (58.72 points) = 211.25 points
PIT - Crosby (92.97 points) + Malkin (99.57 points) + Brassard (45.56 points) = 238.10 points

Just quoting this again to show how clearly it's in the pens favor. Matthews/Tavares are 70-80 point level players. Crosby/Malkin are 90-100 point level players. Difference between Brassard and Kadri is much smaller.

 

[Doyoulikeapples*]

I mean...barley..both are 50 point Cs. But what Kadri brings Defensivly can't be ignored.

Also Kadri had back to back 30 plus goal seasons. Brassard has never scored 30 once. It isn’t close.

 

[Menzinger]

You're in here arguing for C depth you potato, you should care.

The Leafs can literally have a first line level centre each out on the ice for 18 min a game without over working any of them..... that’s 54 minutes of icetime in total.

Can’t really name another team that has that option

 

[Doyoulikeapples*]

This is somehow being debated though lol good times

 

[IceBoxHockey]

This is somehow being debated though lol good times

Does the difference in assist totals just not matter?

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Why they saying hi. Did they re-sign Stasny?

Schiefele, Little, Roslovic, Copp is why.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Schiefele, Little, Roslovic, Copp is why.

Matthews Tavares Kadri better.

 

[rent free]

Schiefele, Little, Roslovic, Copp is why.

leafs centers are better for sure

 

[Leafsdude7]

Just quoting this again to show how clearly it's in the pens favor. Matthews/Tavares are 70-80 point level players. Crosby/Malkin are 90-100 point level players. Difference between Brassard and Kadri is much smaller.

I don't want to say it's guaranteed, because nothing ever is, especially in hockey, but it's incredibly unlikely that Matthews gets stuck at 80-points throughout the next 5-10 seasons, especially with Tavares there to shelter him from playing against top defensive players. Especially once he learns to use his size and strength, Matthews should at least match Malkin's numbers. The Penguins still clearly currently have the better centres, but by 2020-21 this trio will probably easily be tops in the league.

 

[Killer Orcas]

No team is built perfectly. We just took a 105 pt team and added John Tavares. We’re much improved. There will be minor improvements on D but the leafs are a big contender.

I'm not knocking the signing as I think it's great but you can only play so many top 6's and you have too many now. Depth is great and I understand that but you also need it on D. You guys are in a position to be great but you still need a RHD and doesn't have to be a star but a capable top 4. Good luck you will definitely be fun to watch this coming season.

 

[IceBoxHockey]

Schiefele, Little, Roslovic, Copp is why.

If Statsny had resigned than it would be somewhat closer, but Leafs definitely have the better depth

 

[Leafsdude7]

Schiefele, Little, Roslovic, Copp is why.

Roslovic? The guy who's played 32 NHL games? Who looked absolutely lost against the Golden Knights?

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

I don't want to say it's guaranteed, because nothing ever is, especially in hockey, but it's incredibly unlikely that Matthews gets stuck at 80-points throughout the next 5-10 seasons, especially with Tavares there to shelter him from playing against top defensive players. Especially once he learns to use his size and strength, Matthews should at least match Malkin's numbers. The Penguins still clearly currently have the better centres, but by 2020-21 this trio will probably easily be tops in the league.

Well yea I'm certainly not arguing for the 2021 penguins here. Crosby/Malkin will have big declines in 3-4 years. But based on what we saw just a couple months ago they are still 2 of the top 3 centers in the league.

 

[VainGretzky]

Tavares >>> drai
Look at the trash he played with in Ny and still produced like he did.

Drai had back to back 70 + point seasons at the Age of 22 and under , now hurry tell me the other players to do this in last 10 years ?

 

[PensandCaps]

Also Kadri had back to back 30 plus goal seasons. Brassard has never scored 30 once. It isn’t close.

I mean...it is close. If you look at points and not just goals. That's not Brassard game.

Brassard had 46 points in 72 games this year. Only 6 on the PP. He outscored Kadri 5v5 this year in 8 less games playing mostly in horrible Ottawa. I doubt Kadri puts up 32 goals on Ottawa.