News: Skyler Brind'Amour will not sign with the Oilers, speculation is he will sign with Carolina

[Jersey Fan 12]

Rod is now divorced from Skyler's mother, so...

Kid with current wife is named Brooks, which is one of those old money southern names. Eligible for the 2030 draft.

Oops.

 

[Curufinwe]

This is a disgrace to the league, just like when Wyatt Kalynuk signed with Chicago.

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[AhosDatsyukian]

I wouldn’t say everyone ends up happy in those situations. It’s better to get something than nothing, for sure, but the return rarely is as valuable as the actual player.

Carolina would much rather have had Adam Fox than two second round picks.

Calgary would've never traded Fox's rights to us if he wasn't already set on signing with the Rags, we decided to take a stab at trying to convince him and got him thrown in on the trade but the value was mostly coming from Dougie and Ferland. I think the Canes were pretty happy with the 2 second rounders all things considered.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Calgary would've never traded Fox's rights to us if he wasn't already set on signing with the Rags, we decided to take a stab at trying to convince him and got him thrown in on the trade but the value was mostly coming from Dougie and Ferland. I think the Canes were pretty happy with the 2 second rounders all things considered.

I’m aware of the situation. I’m certain they valued him pretty highly at the time of the trade as it doesn’t make a lot of sense otherwise to deal two young players who were high draft picks and still have years worth of team control left for an expiring Ferland and a few years of Dougie. Whether he was being truthful or just trying to appease the fan base, Waddell seemed to think we had a legit shot at signing him so to lose out on a Norris winner for two seconds definitely doesn’t make me feel happy. Calgary surely weren’t happy with him, either.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Did he really name his kid Skyler?

 

[bert]

Is he even any good? Not great production on a stacked team as a 23 year old. I imagine he would be a grinder at this level.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Did he really name his kid Skyler?

how do you feel about him naming his second son Brooks?

Brooks Brindamour

 

[tarheelhockey]

I’m aware of the situation. I’m certain they valued him pretty highly at the time of the trade as it doesn’t make a lot of sense otherwise to deal two young players who were high draft picks and still have years worth of team control left for an expiring Ferland and a few years of Dougie. Whether he was being truthful or just trying to appease the fan base, Waddell seemed to think we had a legit shot at signing him so to lose out on a Norris winner for two seconds definitely doesn’t make me feel happy. Calgary surely weren’t happy with him, either.

Both Ferland and Dougie would still be on the Canes if the former hadn't been seriously injured and the latter hadn't blown up to become a Norris contender with a $9M price tag. The idea was to get a Martinook and a Burns type of return, which makes total sense in the context of that trade.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Is he even any good? Not great production on a stacked team as a 23 year old. I imagine he would be a grinder at this level.

Quinnipiac was not a stacked team. They play a grinding, defense-first style of hockey.
They had two NHL draft picks in their lineup, Brindamour and Lipkin.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Both Ferland and Dougie would still be on the Canes if the former hadn't been seriously injured and the latter hadn't blown up to become a Norris contender with a $9M price tag. The idea was to get a Martinook and a Burns type of return, which makes total sense in the context of that trade.

I can’t remember off the top of my head but didn’t Ferland already have injury concerns when we got him?

Had he stayed healthy, he would have gotten a pretty big contract considering the style he played. Given our track record with how we value ufa’s compared to the market rate I’m not so sure we would have kept him.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I can’t remember off the top of my head but didn’t Ferland already have injury concerns when we got him?

Had he stayed healthy, he would have gotten a pretty big contract considering the style he played. Given our track record with how we value ufa’s compared to the market rate I’m not so sure we would have kept him.

He did have the injury concerns, which was the roll of the dice with him. Much like Gardiner, we gambled on lost on that aspect. That said, he was a great fit and played well in his time here.

Not sure what "pretty big" means in this context... he was a consistent 20-20-40 guy who was reliable to miss games each year because of his playing style. It's hard to say what that draws on the market, since there's always someone out there willing to overpay, but who knows what they might have done ahead of UFA to try and retain him.

The more important thing is we likely do a lot better in the playoffs with a guy like him in the lineup. The Canes got pretty badly pushed around in their series losses.

 

[Mr Positive]

If I were him I'd sign in a place that has traded picks for years. Eg Pittsburgh. They are likely starving for young talent

I don't see much special opportunity in Carolina

 

[Melrose Munch]

I honestly have no idea where the kid is trending, but it seems like a very bold move for a guy to make if this is the case.

I somewhat understand the guys that are going to go straight to the NHL doing this, but if you are a guy that is going to the AHL do you really want to be burning bridges this early in your career?

I completely agree. Who's to say he's even in the league next year?

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

They gotta fix this in the next CBA. I’m a players’ rights guy, but this is a loophole other prospects don’t get- sloppy work because the union is dumb and the owners only care about money.

Also, bitch move Skyler.

 

[Chet Manley]

The NHL should probably do something differently with NCAA players. Maybe a separate draft for players declaring themselves ready to join the NHL.

 

[Nucker42]

The NHL should probably do something differently with NCAA players. Maybe a separate draft for players declaring themselves ready to join the NHL.

How about if they really want to become UFA’s they have to sit out more than a few months. It’s a joke right now. They can finish their in April, become a free agent in August and then be playing on a new team by September.

If they want to become UFA’s then force them to sit out an entire calendar year.

 

[Homesick]

They gotta fix this in the next CBA. I’m a players’ rights guy, but this is a loophole other prospects don’t get- sloppy work because the union is dumb and the owners only care about money.

Also, bitch move Skyler.

Why? For every NCAA player that does this there will be a 100 drafted players not offered a contract.

 

[Chet Manley]

How about if they really want to become UFA’s they have to sit out more than a few months. It’s a joke right now. They can finish their in April, become a free agent in August and then be playing on a new team by September.

If they want to become UFA’s then force them to sit out an entire calendar year.

It's not as if they've gotten any real support from the team that drafted them. So I get why they go UFA and see no reason to punish it. It would be easier just to change how they are drafted.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Why? For every NCAA player that does this there will be a 100 drafted players not offered a contract.

Why not? It wouldn’t change college players’ approaches, and would potentially actually benefit those 100 as the worry that a guy won’t sign disappears. Currently I’d be wary of drafting a college player because of the chance of taking a Fox/Vesey/Johnson/Brindamour.

 

[Homesick]

Imagine making a player that has committed to the NCAA wait until 20 years old to enter the draft?
Not sure how the NHLPA would view it.
Anyways, the Oilers would only offer him a minor league deal so no big loss

 

[Nucker42]

It's not as if they've gotten any real support from the team that drafted them. So I get why they go UFA and see no reason to punish it. It would be easier just to change how they are drafted.

I don’t agree with that at all…. Teams can’t technically pay for players flights etc… for development camps. But they are still entirely entitled to the development itself.

With that said, it is silly how the rules work and that players are on their own dime.

 

[Underdogoil]

Only on HF is there a thread about a 6th rounder soon to be 24 year old not signing with team that drafted him

 

[Three On Zero]

Only on HF is there a thread about a 6th rounder soon to be 24 year old not signing with team that drafted him

HF is one of the larger online hockey communities, so that does make sense

 

[zar]

The Oilers don’t have the cap space for him anyways.

 

[bert]

Quinnipiac was not a stacked team. They play a grinding, defense-first style of hockey.
They had two NHL draft picks in their lineup, Brindamour and Lipkin.

They just won a national championship and barely lost all season that's a stacked team. Figure it out. If you're going to reply answer the actual question. You don't sound smart you sound like an absolute moron.