Braun i felt was very underrated in San Jose. He eats up alot of minutes, his stick is usually always in the right place. Philly will like him aslong as he is not part of the top pairing or expect any offense from him lol.
Confirmed Trade: [SJS/PHI] Sharks trade RD Justin Braun to the Flyers for 2019 2nd and 2020 3rd
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The Madrigal
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Everyone loves to proclaim a ''winner'' in trades but this is a really good trade for both teams. San Jose clears some much needed cap and gets really solid value in the process. The Flyers get a much needed veteran RHD who can play 20 minutes a night and be a reliable partner for a young D like Sanheim or Ghost. Win-win.
I think Philly fans will be very happy with Braun. If he is paired with a left handed puck mover they will be really happy and look back on this trade as a steal.
Tripod
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Here's the view from the Flyers and imo. Needed on the backend was solid professional s from winning organizations. They should help the young d mature faster than MacDonald and Gudas. I believe AV wanted to also change the culture of the locker room and I believe while a higher cost than what I would have paid its not significantly higher. Case in point would have felt better a two 3s for Braun.
mercury
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Morin will be 24 next month. He is and isn't a prospect, if that makes sense. I think we need him more as our #6-7 guy than we do anything in return. He might push Hagg out of a job, which would make a lot of Flyers fans happy. We have a surfeit of forwards now, too. Frost and Farabee will have a chance to make the team this fall, and that would mean some guys would have to go. And we are not really looking for futures now. Don't know if there is a fit, but feel free to throw some ideas out.
mercury
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BTW, if nothing else, the Flyers' defense now at least looks like it doesn't totally suck. Plus, we have a good young goalie now. That is a tremendous feeling, long/large UFA contracts and arguable trade overpayments aside. Provorov, Sanheim, Niskanen, Gostisbehere, Braun, Morin, Hagg, Schlemko, Friedman = quality depth, and perhaps a truly special blueline if the young guys continue to develop.
Limekiller
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Put me in the camp that thinks this is a win-win for both teams. The Sharks needed cap space, and couldn't afford to pay someone that would be their #3 RD $3.8 million. He's really a fairly decent 2nd pairing guy in a vacuum, but here he obviously isn't going to slot in ahead of either Burns or Karlsson, so....
Philly, on the other hand, desperately needed RD. In Braun, they get someone to be the defensive side of a 2nd pairing, as well as a quality person and professional to help their kids develop. He's not a long term risk, since he's a UFA in 2020, and his cap hit is completely reasonable as a 2nd pairing RD. If the Flyers end up liking him and he likes Philly, I could see them extending him. Even if not, a 2nd and 3rd in different drafts really isn't some kind of backbreaking over-payment for who they're getting.
Both sides got exactly what they needed from the deal, so how is this not a win for both sides?
Philly, on the other hand, desperately needed RD. In Braun, they get someone to be the defensive side of a 2nd pairing, as well as a quality person and professional to help their kids develop. He's not a long term risk, since he's a UFA in 2020, and his cap hit is completely reasonable as a 2nd pairing RD. If the Flyers end up liking him and he likes Philly, I could see them extending him. Even if not, a 2nd and 3rd in different drafts really isn't some kind of backbreaking over-payment for who they're getting.
Both sides got exactly what they needed from the deal, so how is this not a win for both sides?
UnleashRasmus
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Braun is a good defensemen and he'll fit a role for sure in Philly. This screams "owner wants a winner now", with a side of Giroux isn't getting any younger. I guess I've appreciated the Flyers ability to mix and match, more than the Holmgren style of throw paint at a wall. I still think the Hayes contract is going to be very arduous inside of 2-3 seasons. Yes, I realize he's 27 turning 28, but he's never cracked 60 points and never scored over 30. Back to Braun, I think the picks are fine, since it's spread out over two drafts. I'm just wondering when the cap is going to be an issue.
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Gonna miss Braun, aside from clearing some much needed cap its also nice to get value while he has some
Actually he is my favorite hockey podcaster. Guy knows his hockey. Also I'm not sure it's meant as a straight up insult as much as a quip on Philly always going all in to make things happen. Probably a little bit of both though.
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This is a big year for him in the Flyers Organization and in general. Bust is a harsh word, I expect he'll be no worse than an NHL 6th or 3rd pairing penalty kill guy. Definitely was over drafted, but that's the only reason he's boom or bust right now. Injuries have played a large role, most Flyers fans that I speak with want him as our 7 this season over Hagg.
The problem is it's one year for a 2nd AND 3rd. If it was just a 3rd or 2nd I'd be open, but we're losing depth big time here.
The greater concern is that Fletcher makes a habit of doing this...2nd and 3rd rounders can still turn out to be STUDS as well as Top 6 or Top 4 players..
mercury
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There are only a handful of better players who were drafted later than Morin in 2013. That draft was awful. And he has had to deal with major injuries.
TheKingPin
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I like all the pro Braun comments. A lot of us wanted to save those picks and would have rather used them and cap on these and future players that are going cheap like Gusev. But in the end guys like Gusev don’t win you playoff rounds.
TomasHertlsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
I’ve made some pro-Braun comments in here, but let me be crystal clear: Gusev is much more likely to win you playoff rounds than Braun is.
Richard88
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Gusev hasn't played a single NHL game yet.
So? Is he more likely to be out of the league after a couple seasons than Braun? Maybe. But he is also more likely to be a game changer and win you playoff rounds, too.
TomasHertlsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
Neither has Jack Hughes. Neither had Artemi Panarin in 2015. Hell, you want a Flyers specific example, neither had James Van Riemsdyk in 2009.
This is not a good argument.
Richard88
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He may well be Panarin Mk.II, but I was simply implying that it would be a good idea to keep the hype in check as he's never played on small rinks against NHL defences before.
Uhhhh... Wennberg, Pulock, Mantha, Domi, Morrissey, Theodore, Zadorov, Dickinson, Burakovsky in the first round alone?
Not sure what kind of an impact Morin will be making in the future, but looking purely at stats, you could do a lot better. Obviously we can't project injuries, and I don't remember what kind of hype Morin had at the draft, but to say only a handful is a bit of a stretch.
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Braun doesn't win you a playoff series. He probably doesn't even win you a period.
Eggtimer
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Sucks to say this as a life king Devils fan but ....Flyers are looking very good on paper . Shaping up to have one if the best D cores in the league and a very very good goaltender , If Patrick breaks out and their bottom 6 forwards are decent ... could be string contenders for next few years. Metro is going to be best division in the league
