Should Yandle stay or go?

[scholl]

I’m not sure who ever wrote the rule that your PP specialist can’t be on the 3rd pairing, or the rule that your 3rd pairing needs to be tough/rough. Why can’t your second pairing be tough/rough? The D-order is about minutes played. The issue is who will play with Yandle? It typically has to be Ekblad.

PP specialist can be even the 7th d-man in those leagues that allow that. In this situation the problem is not where he plays but how much he earns.

 

[KW]

Yandle made a great outlet pass off the boards to Hubie for the first goal. I doubt Weegar makes that pass, although Ekblad would. In general, Yandle involves everyone on offense, which is where his skills show. He just can’t stop the other team from doing the same.

 

[panthersdu67]

This pass was more or less the only good thing he achieved during that game. Did you see his triple turn over during the next power play ? The rest of his game was quite embarrassing TBH, made of turn overs, fumbles and what not. Also, I think Weegar is very capable of doing such long stretch passes, he's done a few last year, and possesses an at least decent offensive vision of the game. Also, the pass was quite straight forward, the canes had left a big hole in the neutral zone, it's not like he threaded the needle through an impossible maze of opposing players.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

This pass was more or less the only good thing he achieved during that game. Did you see his triple turn over during the next power play ? The rest of his game was quite embarrassing TBH, made of turn overs, fumbles and what not. Also, I think Weegar is very capable of doing such long stretch passes, he's done a few last year, and possesses an at least decent offensive vision of the game. Also, the pass was quite straight forward, the canes had left a big hole in the neutral zone, it's not like he threaded the needle through an impossible maze of opposing players.

The drop pass he does everytime...
The turnover you mean where he literally turned around in the NZ, looked the Canes player dead in the eye and passed him the puck, maybe it was Trocheck

He has some serious brain farts, along with Weegar and Ekblad last night or games prior but Yandle just irks me because he's only skating by on his PP production for 3:30 of the game and he's terrified to get hit in DZ, constantly relying on his stick checks which also run the risk of penalties, something he leads the team with.

Gudas is covering up a ton for Yandle in our own end.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

What @scholl said, the real problem is his contract and also that he's holding the team hostage with his streak. Otherwise Q would've benched him a long time ago. Moving him in the summer is priority #1 (since Bob is unmovable).

But yea that pass wasn't so special, if you look at it Huby was clearly open and even signaled where to pass the puck. And Yandle is always looking to stretch the ice to make a risky home run play, sometimes it works and looks great. Other times it's a disaster.

 

[austropanther]

This pass was more or less the only good thing he achieved during that game. Did you see his triple turn over during the next power play ? The rest of his game was quite embarrassing TBH, made of turn overs, fumbles and what not. Also, I think Weegar is very capable of doing such long stretch passes, he's done a few last year, and possesses an at least decent offensive vision of the game. Also, the pass was quite straight forward, the canes had left a big hole in the neutral zone, it's not like he threaded the needle through an impossible maze of opposing players.

On top of his horrible PP sequences and turnovers, it bothers me that the guy cannot skate fast forward for his life. He is forced to make the drop pass because he cannot skate. Guys like Weegs, Forsling and Ek can take the puck and skate it up ice, yet Yands always needs Barky to do that for him.

He might be the best of our D men keeping the puck in the zone. He is the worst D men in every other aspect compared to the rest of the D.

 

[panthersdu67]

The drop pass he does everytime...
The turnover you mean where he literally turned around in the NZ, looked the Canes player dead in the eye and passed him the puck, maybe it was Trocheck

He has some serious brain farts, along with Weegar and Ekblad last night or games prior but Yandle just irks me because he's only skating by on his PP production for 3:30 of the game and he's terrified to get hit in DZ, constantly relying on his stick checks which also run the risk of penalties, something he leads the team with.

Gudas is covering up a ton for Yandle in our own end.

Exactly, I'm really fed up seeing him do this silly "one trick pony" move every time he gets a chance...

Also I'd like to see Ekblad get a real shot at the n°1 "PP specialist/QB" position once in a while, to see if Yandle is really "so special" at it. I mean I know he's not bad at it, but he's not going to be here forever (wishful thinking ?) and someone's gonna have to fill in his shoes sooner or later, so I'd like to see them getting involved in that transition.

 

[Thomas Colavecchio]

This pass was more or less the only good thing he achieved during that game. Did you see his triple turn over during the next power play ? The rest of his game was quite embarrassing TBH, made of turn overs, fumbles and what not. Also, I think Weegar is very capable of doing such long stretch passes, he's done a few last year, and possesses an at least decent offensive vision of the game. Also, the pass was quite straight forward, the canes had left a big hole in the neutral zone, it's not like he threaded the needle through an impossible maze of opposing players.

Spot on review of KY...no way his 'value' on the PP out weighs the negatives in the defensive zone. The near disaster alone on that PP should have earned him a seat next to Q for the rest of the night.

It is a shame his contract clause, requiring the Cats to protect him in the upcoming expansion draft, will cost the team the loss of a more reliable defensive player...Gudas has been a terrific addition, and while I want to see more, Frosling and Nutti seem to offer much more. I'd hate to see any of them go.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

This pass was more or less the only good thing he achieved during that game. Did you see his triple turn over during the next power play ? The rest of his game was quite embarrassing TBH, made of turn overs, fumbles and what not. Also, I think Weegar is very capable of doing such long stretch passes, he's done a few last year, and possesses an at least decent offensive vision of the game. Also, the pass was quite straight forward, the canes had left a big hole in the neutral zone, it's not like he threaded the needle through an impossible maze of opposing players.

If you like turnovers, you should've seen Ekblad play yesterday. Oooooof.

 

[austropanther]

If you like turnovers, you should've seen Ekblad play yesterday. Oooooof.

Yeah, the bank pass of the boards on the first was bad. But all in all, not even close to be as blatand as Yandle's - in quantity and severity!

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Yeah, the bank pass of the boards on the first was bad. But all in all, not even close to be as blatand as Yandle's - in quantity and severity!

Agree to disagree. At least Yandles turnovers didn't directly result in a goal.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Agree to disagree. At least Yandles turnovers didn't directly result in a goal.

Run the 5 on 5 numbers for all 14 games though, take into context QOC, DZ/OZ starts, TOI, GF and GA
Shocked with your love of Yandle.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

If you like turnovers, you should've seen Ekblad play yesterday. Oooooof.

Agree to disagree. At least Yandles turnovers didn't directly result in a goal.

Lol. Yandle's failed clearing attempt lead to Carolina's second goal.

And Ekblad had one bad turnover, yeah, but the guy has been elite this year and is twice the player Yandle is. But yeah, let's complain about Ek's turnovers. What an odd hill to die on.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Run the 5 on 5 numbers for all 14 games though.
Shocked with your love of Yandle.

It's not even love for Yandle, I honestly don't care if he gets traded. I just realize that he's not as worthless as everyone thinks he is.

The same people that think he's completely awful, are the basically the same that thought Gudbranson was decent and/or tough. Spoiler alert!: He wasn't.

What numbers are you looking for? I don't think anyone here would disagree that Ekblad is head and shoulders better than Yandle, myself included, but where's the outcry when Ekblad makes terrible turnovers and boneheaded decisions?

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Lol. Yandle's failed clearing attempt lead to Carolina's second goal.

And Ekblad had one bad turnover, yeah, but the guy has been elite this year and is twice the player Yandle is. But yeah, let's complain about Ek's turnovers. What an odd hill to die on.

Lol no it didn't. You could argue it was Gudas who didn't clear the puck. And what about the 2 other turnovers he had before that? Those unimportant to you?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you've never played or studied hockey.

 

[austropanther]

It's not even love for Yandle, I honestly don't care if he gets traded. I just realize that he's not as worthless as everyone thinks he is.

The same people that think he's completely awful, are the basically the same that thought Gudbranson was decent and/or tough. Spoiler alert!: He wasn't.

What numbers are you looking for? I don't think anyone here would disagree that Ekblad is head and shoulders better than Yandle, myself included, but where's the outcry when Ekblad makes terrible turnovers and boneheaded decisions?

OMG the Gudbranson card again... even the Guds supporters managed to leave this sad story behind...

Yands isn't worthless. But bad. Guds wasn't worthless. And also bad.

Switch the word Guds with Yands and you are behaving the same supporters, defending somebody that just isn't cutting it for the team...

And are we seriously comparing EK and Yands? Wow

 

[austropanther]

Agree to disagree. At least Yandles turnovers didn't directly result in a goal.

Aha, so a turnover that does not result in a goal is a good turnover. And a one that does is bad. Gotcha

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

It's not even love for Yandle, I honestly don't care if he gets traded. I just realize that he's not as worthless as everyone thinks he is.

The same people that think he's completely awful, are the basically the same that thought Gudbranson was decent and/or tough. Spoiler alert!: He wasn't.

What numbers are you looking for? I don't think anyone here would disagree that Ekblad is head and shoulders better than Yandle, myself included, but where's the outcry when Ekblad makes terrible turnovers and boneheaded decisions?

Go through the GDT and you will see a lot of people call out Ekblad though..
Some call out Barkov and Huberdeau as well.
But it's rarer of course because they're clearly shouldering a lot more than everyone else.

Not sure what some expect of Ekblad? Hes going to make mistakes, he will likely get called out again and hopefully continues on the recent 2 year rise of becoming a legit #1D.

We won't run the numbers because it's silly to compare a #5D PPQB playing 17.5 mins (14mins on even strength) to a #1D playing 25mins a night (19.5 mins on even strength).

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Lol no it didn't. You could argue it was Gudas who didn't clear the puck. And what about the 2 other turnovers he had before that? Those unimportant to you?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you've never played or studied hockey.

see now you're full of shit. I'm just going to post this here so that everyone knows it

That's Yandle passing the puck straight to Aho, the eventual goal scorer. No other Panther touched the puck after that.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

see now you're full of shit. I'm just going to post this here so that everyone knows it

That's Yandle passing the puck straight to Aho, the eventual goal scorer. No other Panther touched the puck after that.

Can you post the NZ giveaway to the CAR player?

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Can you post the NZ giveaway to the CAR player?

Which one are you referring to? That was the only turnover on the second goal.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Which one are you referring to? That was the only turnover on the second goal.

It was on one of our PPs where Yandle gave away the puck twice but the major glaring one was in the NZ where he turns around, faces the CAR player and tries to pass it by him but is easily intercepted.

It was after Huberdeaus 1st goal in 2nd period with less than 10 mins to go, likely on the Svechnikov penalty

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

see now you're full of shit. I'm just going to post this here so that everyone knows it

That's Yandle passing the puck straight to Aho, the eventual goal scorer. No other Panther touched the puck after that.

Lmao yeah that’s the same thing. Jesus Christ. You see that other player in white? That’s called a winger, it’s now his responsibility to get the puck out of the zone.

[mod]

 

[austropanther]

Lmao yeah that’s the same thing. Jesus Christ. You see that other player in white? That’s called a winger, it’s now his responsibility to get the puck out of the zone.

[mod]

Now blaming the forward??? The winger can only get the puck out of the zone when he has possession or can reach it with a wack. How was he supposed to do that in this situation? Enlighten us!

 

[GrumpyKelly]

It was on one of our PPs where Yandle gave away the puck twice but the major glaring one was in the NZ where he turns around, faces the CAR player and tries to pass it by him but is easily intercepted.

It was after Huberdeaus 1st goal in 2nd period with less than 10 mins to go, likely on the Svechnikov penalty