SJSharksfan39
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On a positive note, the Ducks are playing almost as ineptly as the Sharks are. Just turned on the game and the Wild just scored two quick additional goals.
We are really lucky the Pacific division is garbage this year.On a positive note, the Ducks are playing almost as ineptly as the Sharks are. Just turned on the game and the Wild just scored two quick additional goals.
Our forwards are fast enough except for 2 of them but they get overplayed.
This is a system thing. Patty would do this as wellThen why do they peel off to the boards even on odd man rushes every time they enter the zone instead of driving to the net using the middle of the ice?
# | Date / Opponent | SNOG Winner(s) | Result |
1 | Oct. 3 vs Ducks | none | Ducks 5-2 |
2 | Oct. 5 at Kings | PackShark, HOOCH2173, Herschel, Ol Dirty Pirate | Sharks 3-2 OT |
3 | Oct. 8 at Islanders | none | Islanders 4-0 |
4 | Oct. 9 at Flyers | none | Sharks 8-2 |
5 | Oct. 11 at Rangers | none | Rangers 3-2 OT |
6 | Oct. 14 at Devils | none | Devils 3-2 |
7 | Oct. 18 vs Sabres | fasterthanlight | Sharks 5-1 |
8 | Oct. 20 vs Islanders | BaileyMacTavish, Kcoyote3 | Sharks 4-1 |
9 | Oct. 23 at Predators | none | Sharks 5-4 |
10 | Oct. 26 at Hurricanes | none | Hurricanes 4-3 SO |
11 | Oct. 28 at Ducks | none | Sharks 4-3 OT |
12 | Oct. 30 vs Rangers | none | Rangers 4-3 SO |
13 | Nov. 1 vs Blue Jackets | none | Blue Jackets 4-1 |
14 | Nov. 3 vs Flyers | rangerssharks414 | Sharks 4-3 OT |
15 | Nov. 6 vs Wild | FeedingFrenzy | Sharks 4-3 |
16 | Nov. 8 at Stars | none | Stars 4-3 |
17 | Nov. 9 at Blues | none | Blues 4-0 |
Rank | 2018-19 SNOG standings | # of SNOGs |
T-1. | BaileyMacTavish, fasterthanlight, FeedingFrenzy, Herschel, HOOCH2173, Kcoyote3, Ol Dirty Pirate, PackShark, rangerssharks414 | 1 |
This is a system thing. Patty would do this as well
Deboer beat Laviolette but I'm not gonna use that to say PDB is a better coach.I just want to make it very clear that saying “DeBoer is better than TMac!” is not a valid excuse. Particularly not when TMac literally beat DeBoer in 6 games with a ****ty Oilers team.
Deboer beat Laviolette but I'm not gonna use that to say PDB is a better coach.
Relevant to point 2 is the general deployment of the defense. Like what the heck is with the constant blender. Outside of the first 5 games, none of the defensemen have had a consistent pairing throughout a game. Ryan-Burns -> Karlsson-Burns -> Karlsson-Dillon -> Karlsson-Vlasic -> Braun-Vlasic -> Braun-Burns -> Burns-Vlasic. We've seen all of these pairings in each of the last 10 games.DeBoer certainly deserves to be criticized...but I only see him as the prime scapegoat in these cases:
1) Melker Karlsson over anyone else
2) Ice time of Joakim Ryan
Broadly speaking, the rest of the things he is doing may not be optimal, but the primary problem is the players not executing. Couture-Hertl-Meier has been the Sharks's only good line...I can understand the line blender when every other line just cannot get much going. Jones has been hot garbage, but I can sympathize with DeBoer wanting to play him through his struggles. Erik Karlsson, Pavelski, Vlasic, Thornton, Braun, Kane, and Labanc have had some poor moments, but what can DeBoer do? He can't make the players play well.
There are certain lineup combinations we would all like to see, but I think we understate how much control top players have over their own deployment, and we overstate how much line combinations and partners really matter.
Relevant to point 2 is the general deployment of the defense. Like what the heck is with the constant blender. Outside of the first 5 games, none of the defensemen have had a consistent pairing throughout a game. Ryan-Burns -> Karlsson-Burns -> Karlsson-Dillon -> Karlsson-Vlasic -> Braun-Vlasic -> Braun-Burns -> Burns-Vlasic. We've seen all of these pairings in each of the last 10 games.
DeBoer certainly deserves to be criticized...but I only see him as the prime scapegoat in these cases:
1) Melker Karlsson over anyone else
2) Ice time of Joakim Ryan
Broadly speaking, the rest of the things he is doing may not be optimal, but the primary problem is the players not executing. Couture-Hertl-Meier has been the Sharks's only good line...I can understand the line blender when every other line just cannot get much going. Jones has been hot garbage, but I can sympathize with DeBoer wanting to play him through his struggles. Erik Karlsson, Pavelski, Vlasic, Thornton, Braun, Kane, and Labanc have had some poor moments, but what can DeBoer do? He can't make the players play well.
There are certain lineup combinations we would all like to see, but I think we understate how much control top players have over their own deployment, and we overstate how much line combinations and partners really matter.
DeBoer certainly deserves to be criticized...but I only see him as the prime scapegoat in these cases:
1) Melker Karlsson over anyone else
2) Ice time of Joakim Ryan
Broadly speaking, the rest of the things he is doing may not be optimal, but the primary problem is the players not executing. Couture-Hertl-Meier has been the Sharks's only good line...I can understand the line blender when every other line just cannot get much going. Jones has been hot garbage, but I can sympathize with DeBoer wanting to play him through his struggles. Erik Karlsson, Pavelski, Vlasic, Thornton, Braun, Kane, and Labanc have had some poor moments, but what can DeBoer do? He can't make the players play well.
There are certain lineup combinations we would all like to see, but I think we understate how much control top players have over their own deployment, and we overstate how much line combinations and partners really matter.
Part of that is DeBoer's illogical dislike of Joakim Ryan (or perhaps he has the mandate to get the minutes of the other guys up), but part of the reason for the blender is because the players are underwhelming. Karlsson and Vlasic have yet to get going, and DeBoer is trying everything to change that.
I know I am somewhat alone in this opinion, but if you want to claim to be a #1/superstar defenseman (and get paid like it), your partner can never be an excuse for this standard of play. Vlasic, Karlsson, and Burns should be able to carry play with a bottom-pairing defenseman as their partner.
Note: It'd be fair to say that with the right partner, Karlsson could win the Norris or Vlasic could be the league's top shutdown defenseman. But, if the wrong partner makes either player a ho-hum 2nd-pairing guy, that is a major problem.
Even Strength | GF | GA | GF% | SCF% | HDCF% | OZFO% |
Burns W/Ryan | 42 | 33 | 56 | 54.54 | 53.54 | 58.23 |
Burns W/o Ryan | 39 | 63 | 38.24 | 51.65 | 49.11 | 65.17 |
The benching of Ryan in favor of Heed concerns me. Its a pattern similar to benching Suomela and Chartier after good games. Changing lines did not work so now he is going to bench players and try other players with the hope that it just works.
Its not even that I am opposed to benching players who are playing poorly but he has benching both Ryan and Suomela this year without a real reason.
The handling of Joakim Ryan, given Ryan's absolute importance to Burns' success, is a particularly confusing, senseless, and unorthodox decision that, entirely on its own, is just cause for firing Peter DeBoer.