TSN: Seravelli: VGK offered Fleury + 2nd league wide, with no takers

[themelkman]

Thats not shocking at all. a second seems to be the price for 4 mil cap, so a first would be for like 6-7

 

[Guttersniped]

Just to be clear, if this is true then Vegas either offered their own 2021 2nd or the NJ Devils 2021 2nd because they don’t have a 2nd in the 2020 draft. Since he won’t likely get traded before free agency it probably won’t matter that much.

 

[Esq]

My guess is that the "losers" in goalie free agency wind up calling VGK to hammer out a deal for Fleury.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Can they buy him out

They could rationalize that basically the bargain they got on Lehner's contract + buyout hit on Fleury is basically what they were going to pay for a #1 goalie anyway --- whether it was the original plan on Fleury or the $7M+ that Lehner probably should have gotten.

 

[Fatass]

Make the add Glass and Minnesota will take him

That might be too much, but the cost will be high for sure.

 

[Kranix]

Eugene?...is that you?

I'll show you a print out of my expenses and we'll talk. Want to buy the Senators?

 

[Mick Jagr]

1st + MAF and Vegas gets Jack Johnson.

 

[Fatass]

Think they would be paying at least #29 to dump Fleury's whole deal. That Cap hit is pretty heinous for even a mid-level starter. Especially with a flat cap.

Maybe Vegas can get a 3rd party to retain money but they may have trouble finding an owner willing to shell out millions for a draft pick in these times. Dundon and the Canes bought a 1st for $4.6 million last year but that was pre-COVID.

During healthy financial times the Leafs had to give up 13OA to dump just one year of Marleau at 6 million.

 

[AKL]

During healthy financial times the Leafs had to give up 13OA to dump just one year of Marleau at 6 million.

That's because Marleau wasn't going to play for the Canes, they give up the 1st because Carolina was just going to buy him out.

I agree though, it should take a 1st, maybe more, to get a team to retain half, or take on his full hit.

 

[Guttersniped]

Think they would be paying at least #29 to dump Fleury's whole deal. That Cap hit is pretty heinous for even a mid-level starter. Especially with a flat cap.

Maybe Vegas can get a 3rd party to retain money but they may have trouble finding an owner willing to shell out millions for a draft pick in these times. Dundon and the Canes bought a 1st for $4.6 million last year but that was pre-COVID.

Carolina actually paid Marleau his 3m signing bonus and a buy out payment of 833k split over two years.

 

[serp]

My guess is that the "losers" in goalie free agency wind up calling VGK to hammer out a deal for Fleury.

There's so many goalie out there and pretty much all of them are younger than Fleury , will be cheaper and more than likely better than very soon 36 year old MAF . I'm not sure there will be a team that loses . More likely a couple of ok-ish goalies will be without spots.

Its the same boat the Rangers had been in . Nobody is taking a really expensive and old goalie . MAF's contract is not even expiring.

 

[datsyukfan]

What’s fleury’s value at 50% retained?

 

[CupofOil]

You mean to tell me that no team wants to take on a declining 35 year old goalie getting $7M/yr for the next 2 years in a flat cap world? Well that's just shocking.

 

[Treb]

What is the real dollars

6.5 million in 2020-2021, 6 million in 2021-2022. No signing bonus.

 

[InfinityIggy]

More interesting to me is RNH asking for $8...wow. He is not worth that at all.

Meh. Player and agent (should) always start high and the team should always start low. Pretty standard stuff.

 

[Cotton]

During healthy financial times the Leafs had to give up 13OA to dump just one year of Marleau at 6 million.

*They gave up a 1st. Where the pick ended up wasn’t known.

 

[crashthenet]

What’s fleury’s value at 50% retained?

I actually think 25% retained is where they need to be. That plus Lehner's 5 is less than the 7 cap hit Fleury would have been if my math is right. Fleury at 2 years at a little more than 5 is tradable.

 

[bucks_oil]

More interesting to me is RNH asking for $8...wow. He is not worth that at all.

Note that he said that was the ask "pre-pandemic". A lot has changed since then. Local rags saying they are close.

 

[Mick Jagr]

What’s fleury’s value at 50% retained?

MAF at 3.5 would be an incredibly attractive piece for a team to add.

 

[datsyukfan]

I actually think 25% retained is where they need to be. That plus Lehner's 5 is less than the 7 cap hit Fleury would have been if my math is right. Fleury at 2 years at a little more than 5 is tradable.

I’m more so looking at a 3 way trade where the wings retain 50% and receive an asset from Vegas than whatever team he is actually going to pays a small asset to Vegas for fleury at 50%

 

[Flameshomer]

What would it cost the flames to get Peyton Krebs?

Fleury+Krebs would be the right amount of sweetner for us imo.

 

[SakuKoivu11]

It will take first round pick plus Krebs

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I thought Vegas didn't have any 2nd rounders this year or next?

"The Los Angeles Kings received the Vegas Golden Knights 2020 and 2021 2nd round picks for Alec Martinez."

According to Capfriendly, they don't have this years, but they have next year's 2nd. They have NJD's 2021 2nd also.

 

[TBF1972]

That second year is hard to dump for only one second. Maybe two seconds is the right amount of sweetener; one for each year?

more like a second and a first.

currently he looks still playable. but he will turn 37 early in the last year of his contract and might be completely toast. the second year will definitely cost more than the first, as there is so much more uncertainty and therefore risk attached to it.

 

[tsujimoto74]

My guess is that the "losers" in goalie free agency wind up calling VGK to hammer out a deal for Fleury.

The goalie market is very crowded right now. I'm sure Fleury would have suitors in free agency if Vegas bought him out, but I can't see anyone wanting him on his current contract.