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BonkTastic

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EDIT: also I'm a francophone so I will take this opportunity to share with you that English's tendency to capitalize everything bothers me a good deal: nazism doesn't deserve a capital letter unless it is the first word of a sentence.

Proper nouns are capitalized in English, regardless of their origin or status.

Every language has it's idiosyncrasies, French included (gender-identified nouns!)
 

saskriders

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It’s a good question actually worthy of investigating deeply. Maybe not here though.
Like, what exactly is it that a kid would find so attractive about the swastika? It is not JUST a design to them.
Today it could be a pro trump thing.

I think for most it is just a way to be "edgy". Many if not most in North America don't have a personal connection to Nazi atrocities so they won't necessarily get offended by it. Although people that March in the street with Nazi flags are quite clearly doing it for ideological reasons and aren't kids trying to be edgy.
 
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FolignoQuantumLeap

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I think for most it is just a way to be "edgy". Many if not most in North America don't have a personal connection to Nazi atrocities so they won't necessarily get offended by it. Although people that March in the street with Nazi flags are quite clearly doing it for ideological reasons and aren't kids trying to be edgy.
That's it. They know it offends people and it is guaranteed to get a reaction.
 

Zorf

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My interpretation of any stupidity done by a young person, having lived through my own young and dumb years, and assuming that this perpetrator was a young person, was that they didn't really think of consequences of their actions.

I did my fair share of stupid stuff. Never once thought I'd get caught. Only got caught once... But that's another story.

We are also pushing 4 generations removed from WW2, so the shock value of a swastika is likely lower to a 15yr old than it is to someone 35, and much less to anyone who is 65+.

Kids know it will generate a reaction. And they are "trolling" people, and that's funny to them.

They'll grow up and be replaced by the next batch of idiots.

It's a torch that I carried and passed on. It burns stronger and longer than any Olympic flame, and has probably burned down many park benches.


*I did not swastika or burn down park benches
**I did play recklessly with fire though
 

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Tnouc, I can see you edited your post, but to call Nazis "socialist" is a criminally inaccurate portrayal of Nazism,

Thanks for your feedback, and neither of us are going to be defending the Nazis of yesterday, or today. I'm not trying to argue with you, change your mind or claim either POV is false...... as arguments can be made for both sides, just adding to the discussion.

You have to admit, some of policies that the Nazis brought in during the 30s, were typically left wing policies, and still are considered as such today.

To help the approximately 6 million unemployed Germans, the Nazi party created a number of public infrastructure projects, such as constructing roads and bridges, something that is typically seen as in the domain of the left, even today.

They created the Kraft durch Freude program, within the Deutsche Arbeitsfront a Labour Union, that bought culture to the masses, again something considered left wing at the time, and today.

The instituted child care centers, with state employed care givers a left wing cause for sure, to allow women into the workforce.

Basically all of the Nazi’s economic policies were Keynesian.

They socialized their health care system, college tuition was subsidized, food stamps were issued to those who needed them, they brought in government controlled wages and prices, used their version of Political correctness ....... all left wing policies.

The Nazis were more left wing than right wing on most things, and on balance they fall a lot closer to the left wing than the right wing.

I'm sure you will know who made this statement ...

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Sounds pretty left wing, even today.
 

Ray Kinsella

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I've been doing the "today's kids" for years though, ever since I was hitting on a younger lady and she didn't know what South Park was :laugh: (I was 29 and she was like 22)

That being said I grew up in Europe so I guess kid-me's perspective on swastikas and Nazism is different from people who grew up in North America. I got to live in cities that had been razed to the ground (Rotterdam) so I find the notion of children acting like Nazism is cool to be unfathomable, I mean it, why would someone profess love for something that destroyed so much?

EDIT: also I'm a francophone so I will take this opportunity to share with you that English's tendency to capitalize everything bothers me a good deal: nazism doesn't deserve a capital letter unless it is the first word of a sentence.

lol agreed. English is not my first language either :)
 

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Seems to be a constant with me. 15 minutes into a flight and spill a coffee all over me...
 

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coladin

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I remember liking Heavy Rain a lot when it came out. But yeah, I’m kind of on the same page. I’d rather get lost in a really good RPG than an “interactive movie” or whatever.

Games do have the ability to get to us on a unique level, though. Cried like a baby when I played Journey for the first time.

For myself, God of War does that. This latest game is something else. When Kratos got his blades back halfway through the game , and the cinematogroghy around it , was pretty special.
 

PoutineSp00nZ

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For myself, God of War does that. This latest game is something else. When Kratos got his blades back halfway through the game , and the cinematogroghy around it , was pretty special.

Yeah that was a pretty awesome moment. That whole game was exceptionally well done. Best narrative driven game since The Last of us
 
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Ice-Tray

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As most parents know, we are the biggest preventers and perpetrators of this kind of racist thinking. Protect your kids minds as well as they bodies :)

I've always really appreciated this country for continuing espouse this sense of core Canadian values. The idea of public education, public health care, and human rights. As a very superficial analysis, it is much harder to be radicalized when you live in a nation that takes such good care of each other. In the US it is much easier to feel as though the 'government' doesn't care about you, the wealthy only care about themselves, and it seems like everyone is for themselves.

We have an ingrained sense of togetherness and caring for one another that creates a strong, though not always noticed, sense of kinship. It doesn't mean that we're beyond violence and hate as a people, but it does make it much less prevalent, and much less likely to fester and grow. Canadians are kind, polite, and accommodating, but we can turn fierce when our core values are threatened. We're not perfect by any means, and there is always work to do on several fronts, but we're constantly evolving, trying to be better and more inclusive, and are a model nation from a global perspective.

We seem to revel in moments where we can band together in the face of adversity, Trudeau's reactions in the house against Trump protectionism, was a recent example of how both sides of the aisle can join together and put politicking aside (and while important it's not like this was some sort of critical moment). We like banding together. The spat with the Saudis is another example of us standing up for Human rights which most people feel was the right thing to do. We seem to be learning to stand alone these days given the global political climate, and I'm proud that we can continue to be us without US or UK publicly backing us.

We bicker about hockey, we bicker about prospects, team ownership, and where we stand on the political spectrum as it stands in Canada, but we're never really that far away from each other at heart. I love this nation and what it stands for, I love what our veterans and their families were able to create upon returning from the First World War, this nation was forged in war, peace, and with true sense of caring for our fellow men and women. I love you all :)

Happy Monday
 
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Do Make Say Think

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Canada is so damn overrated.

I don't buy all the feel good in the above post at all but I also appreciate the thought. Generally speaking, I like Americans a lot more because they tend to be much more upfront, something I find Anglo-Saxon cultures tend to shy away from. A lot of the time, Canadian kindness is just cowardice. Not always, but often.
 

PoutineSp00nZ

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Canada is so damn overrated.

I don't buy all the feel good in the above post at all but I also appreciate the thought. Generally speaking, I like Americans a lot more because they tend to be much more upfront, something I find Anglo-Saxon cultures tend to shy away from. A lot of the time, Canadian kindness is just cowardice. Not always, but often.

I've been all over the states, and the people are usually quite nice, but certainly more direct. Canadians have this very passive aggressive thing going on, especially in Ottawa. Its like a fake niceness.
 

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Every time I think about these kinds of games I think "why not watch a great movie or play a great game instead of something in-between"

I'm glad these games are being made but man, I just can't get excited about them. Did you like it/enjoy walking sims in general?
My favourite genre is the 'interactive movie' style you're talking about. I like my entertainment to be interactive, but I don't want everything to be this epic grind of shooting or swords or brawling. Sometimes, you just want to chill and feel like you're crafting a story based on your character's decisions and reactions. Telltale games did a lot of these types of games right (although I'd definitely welcome a return to their adventure game roots, but I digress.) And occasional awkward dialogue aside, Dontnod's Life is Strange is one of the best-told stories I can recall in gaming in a long while.
 

saskriders

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Nationalism/patriotism is stupid in general. While there are certainly examples of one particular country being a better place to live than another, in many cases (ie pretty much any two western countries) there are pros and cons to each and it is ridiculous to call one "better" as it is all subjective.

Speaking of "fake niceness" it has always seemed to me that a lot of social interaction (small talk and interactions with strangers/those you don't know well in particular) often seems "fake". This topic also reminds me of an interaction I had with a customer yesterday that kind of rubbed we the wrong way. As you may have known from my posts in the lounge I am not an entirely happy person and at times am depressed. While I haven't been feeling depressed lately, often times my mood can best be described as indifferent particularly when all I have done that day is got up and gone to work like in this story. So a customer comes through my till and I ask if she found everything. She replies "except for a smile and a friendly face". I say "oh", and kinda try to fake a bit of a grin, but I find I can't really fake a smile if I am not feeling good, and it has made me feel awkward and uncomfortable making it even more difficult. She then says something like "you can't do that for me". I don't even remember if I mumbled anything or just said nothing and finished her order. I know she wasn't trying to be mean, but it felt like she was trying to tell me to ignore my emotions because it is more important that people appear cheerful. It felt like that moment in the Simpsons where Marge tells Lisa she should pretend to be happy because then she will be popular and boys will like her.
 

Do Make Say Think

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Nationalism/patriotism is stupid in general. While there are certainly examples of one particular country being a better place to live than another, in many cases (ie pretty much any two western countries) there are pros and cons to each and it is ridiculous to call one "better" as it is all subjective.

Speaking of "fake niceness" it has always seemed to me that a lot of social interaction (small talk and interactions with strangers/those you don't know well in particular) often seems "fake". This topic also reminds me of an interaction I had with a customer yesterday that kind of rubbed we the wrong way. As you may have known from my posts in the lounge I am not an entirely happy person and at times am depressed. While I haven't been feeling depressed lately, often times my mood can best be described as indifferent particularly when all I have done that day is got up and gone to work like in this story. So a customer comes through my till and I ask if she found everything. She replies "except for a smile and a friendly face". I say "oh", and kinda try to fake a bit of a grin, but I find I can't really fake a smile if I am not feeling good, and it has made me feel awkward and uncomfortable making it even more difficult. She then says something like "you can't do that for me". I don't even remember if I mumbled anything or just said nothing and finished her order. I know she wasn't trying to be mean, but it felt like she was trying to tell me to ignore my emotions because it is more important that people appear cheerful. It felt like that moment in the Simpsons where Marge tells Lisa she should pretend to be happy because then she will be popular and boys will like her.

There's a Russian saying (according to some Russian woman who was interviewed by CBC) that goes something along the lines of "only an idiot/mentally deficient person smiles with no reason to".

You can tell the next person who acts like they own you that pearl of wisdom ;) No one is owed kindness. Respect yes, kindness no.
 
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Peptic Balcers

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I'm not sure if there is a separate thread for this, but I'm new to Ottawa and I'm looking for suggestions of which pick up leagues would be the best to join? I've got a group of like 12ish guys with talent ranging from house league to AAA (but we are in our mid 20's now and much worse than when we were 18). We're mostly centrally located so not to picky with the area
 
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I'm not sure if there is a separate thread for this, but I'm new to Ottawa and I'm looking for suggestions of which pick up leagues would be the best to join? I've got a group of like 12ish guys with talent ranging from house league to AAA (but we are in our mid 20's now and much worse than when we were 18). We're mostly centrally located so not to picky with the area

The RA league is pretty central (Billing’s Bridge). Their high-end league is pretty good.

edit: Travellers league (not Minto) was at the Civic Centre (Lansdown) and Ottawa U 17 years ago when I played there, probably still is.
 
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Ray Kinsella

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Anyone living in the country has ever experienced having a fisher in your area? Heard one last night killing one of its victims. Strangely, I couldn’t identify the sound of the dying animal. Mind you, they successfully kill porcupines and, although there are some around, I don’t really know what sound they make.

Fishers, on the other hand, have a very distinctive sound... and a creepy one at that.
 

FolignoQuantumLeap

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Anyone living in the country has ever experienced having a fisher in your area? Heard one last night killing one of its victims. Strangely, I couldn’t identify the sound of the dying animal. Mind you, they successfully kill porcupines and, although there are some around, I don’t really know what sound they make.

Fishers, on the other hand, have a very distinctive sound... and a creepy one at that.
Maybe we can pit the boa in Nepean against this fisher in the country.
 
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Ray Kinsella

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Maybe we can pit the boa in Nepean against this fisher in the country.

Honestly not certain which one would win. It could be at tie. Fishers are not that big, but they have massive teeth, are truly vicious, great climbers and not sure they are prays to other animals.
 

Caeldan

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There's a Russian saying (according to some Russian woman who was interviewed by CBC) that goes something along the lines of "only an idiot/mentally deficient person smiles with no reason to".

You can tell the next person who acts like they own you that pearl of wisdom ;) No one is owed kindness. Respect yes, kindness no.

That or she was just flirting with him.
 

Nac Mac Feegle

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Honestly not certain which one would win. It could be at tie. Fishers are not that big, but they have massive teeth, are truly vicious, great climbers and not sure they are prays to other animals.

Fisher wins easily. Little buggers are like the 'cute' version of the wolverine.

If you have a cat, better keep it indoors while fishers are around. Hell, in Prescott-Russell, it's best to keep cats indoors at all times as foxes do go into the small towns at night and loooove hunting cats.
 
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Ray Kinsella

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Fisher wins easily. Little buggers are like the 'cute' version of the wolverine.

If you have a cat, better keep it indoors while fishers are around. Hell, in Prescott-Russell, it's best to keep cats indoors at all times as foxes do go into the small towns at night and loooove hunting cats.

We live in the same area!! I don’t live in a village at all but more in the middle of nowhere and along the Nation. I have a cat but she’s an outside cat (lives in the summer kitchen). I’m allergic so she can’t live in the house. She’s been with us for over 10yrs... so she should be ok.

But agree on the wolverine lookalike! I don’t know if you’ve ever heard a fisher but I wouldn’t want to be face to face with one. They’re nocturnal and very territorial... I think one covers about 5 to 10 kms. Anyway... vicious things!! lol
 

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Damn, what happened in Italy is brutal... 200 meters of bridge collapsing must be scary stuff to see.
 

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Anyone living in the country has ever experienced having a fisher in your area? Heard one last night killing one of its victims. Strangely, I couldn’t identify the sound of the dying animal. Mind you, they successfully kill porcupines and, although there are some around, I don’t really know what sound they make.

Fishers, on the other hand, have a very distinctive sound... and a creepy one at that.
If you can get close to it...don't try to pet it would be my advice
 
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