OT: Sens Lounge XCVIII: 1000-Post Rule is Back Edition

[saskriders]

Could be a couple of kids that think they are being funny, but nonetheless aren't nazis. Not to say that isn't problematic either though.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Could be a couple of kids that think they are being funny, but nonetheless aren't nazis. Not to say that isn't problematic either though.

It's so crazy to that we have reached a point where younger people (and I'm only 34) just have no concept of what the swastika actually represents.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

It's so crazy to that we have reached a point where younger people (and I'm only 34) just have no concept of what the swastika actually represents.

You’re only 34 and already on to “the kids nowadays” thing... lol

 

[Icelevel]

It's so crazy to that we have reached a point where younger people (and I'm only 34) just have no concept of what the swastika actually represents.

Not sure why you’re saying that but when I was a kid my “friends” used to draw them all over my binders and notebooks and call me a dirty Jew. Course they were just kids.

 

[BonkTastic]

Could be a couple of kids that think they are being funny, but nonetheless aren't nazis. Not to say that isn't problematic either though.

In this case, in my neighborhood, someone went out of their way to make a stencil of a swastika, in order to speed up the process.

It's past the point of kids being kids. This isn't someone who got high and had some spray paint and was trying to be "edgy", this is someone who took time out of their life to make a device in order to make tagging swastikas easier and fadter, so he could do more of them.

The amount of effort put into this means this probably isn't casual graffiti, it's more likely to be one nutbar far-right lowlife.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

In this case, in my neighborhood, someone went out of their way to make a stencil of a swastika, in order to speed up the process.

It's past the point of kids being kids. This isn't someone who got high and had some spray paint and was trying to be "edgy", this is someone who took time out of their life to make a device in order to make tagging swastikas easier and fadter, so he could do more of them.

The amount of effort put into this means this probably isn't casual graffiti, it's more likely to be one nutbar far-right lowlife.

Seems to be a lot of those types crawling out of the sewers over the past two years. It really sucks.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

In this case, in my neighborhood, someone went out of their way to make a stencil of a swastika, in order to speed up the process.

It's past the point of kids being kids. This isn't someone who got high and had some spray paint and was trying to be "edgy", this is someone who took time out of their life to make a device in order to make tagging swastikas easier and fadter, so he could do more of them.

The amount of effort put into this means this probably isn't casual graffiti, it's more likely to be one nutbar far-right lowlife.

Looks like it's more than "just kids", and I agree they're nut-bar low life.

 

[Peptic Balcers]

Looks like it's more than "just kids", and I agree they're nut-bar low life.

But would not just assume they're "far right" as if these punks actually identify with the National Socialist German Workers’ Party, as the swastika would suggest.

The National Socialist German Workers’ Party was a direct competitor of the Communist party, and sought votes from the same side of the political spectrum.

The Nazis were socialists, and they advocated very tight social and economic control by a big, powerful central government, that is textbook far left philosophy not a far right one.

Nevertheless Nazis were lower than the scum of the earth, and anyone who spreads that ideology, in any way, are ignorant of the facts as to why the Allied powers went all out to eradicate that twisted ideology from the face of the earth, and should continue to do so.

I have a feeling that those idiots spray-painting swastika's in 2018 aren't supporting the Nazi's for their economical structures, as much as they're spreading their Anti-Semitic, homophobic, racist messages.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

I still wouldn't put the vandalism being kids off the table. The Donald Trump subreddit basically started as a bunch of kids making memes then it quickly got co-opted by the alt right movement and Russian bot nets. Those kids got radicalized quickly and meme culture has gotten out of hand. Half the insane Facebook memes you see are from Russia, the other half are kids with little parent supervision. They think its funny then it takes a dark turn.

The onion had it right: https://local.theonion.com/we-must-protect-the-pure-aryan-bloodline-says-child-1826868946

 

[The Lewler]

It's so crazy to that we have reached a point where younger people (and I'm only 34) just have no concept of what the swastika actually represents.

Of course. Ignorance is easy.

I mean look at the candidates and votes the Communist Party of Canada gets every election. I mean... wut ?

Sorta the same game. Are they serious? Is it all a no risk troll job ?

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Of course. Ignorance is easy.

I mean look at the candidates and votes the Communist Party of Canada gets every election. I mean... wut ?

Here in the USA we already think you're Communist with your nanny state social welfare programs.

 

[The Lewler]

Here in the USA we already think you're Communist with your nanny state social welfare programs.

Lol and the USA spends an absolute ton of money on social welfare in the form of Medicare and social security .

But it's not "real" social welfare. Shhh

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Lol and the USA spends an absolute ton of money on social welfare in the form of Medicare and social security .

But it's not "real" social welfare. Shhh

Welfare isn't welfare if the recipients are A. Rich B. white C. All of the above. That's not what supply side Jesus would want.

 

[BonkTastic]

Tnouc, I can see you edited your post, but to call Nazis "socialist" is a criminally inaccurate portrayal of Nazism, and so misleading that I feel that I need to educate you about it. Just because a country or political party uses a word like "socialism" in their name, doesn't mean that they are socialist. North Korea is officially the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea", despite being neither democratic, nor a system of government for the "people". In that same vein, nothing about Nazism was socialist.

Nazis coopted the term "socialist" in an attempt to redefine it as a far-right/fascist term - rather than worker's rights, the "socialism" they were promoting was German rights, at the expense of all others. Typical socialism leans towards government ownership of public utilities as an anti-capitalist safeguars, whereas Nazism promoted national unity in the face of non-German entities. It was literally fascism, as far right wing as you can get. Nazism outright rejected communist and common socialism goals and ideologies. Any attempts at nationalizing industries were made through the lense of wanting to exclude non-ethnic Germans/Aryans from the national sphere of influence.

So while we can agree that the person spraypainting swastikas in my neighborhood are probably nutbars, please don't ever tell anyone that Nazis were socialist in any left-wing context, let alone someone like me with a degree in political history, because you will either be taken as criminally ignorant on the subject, or legitimately devious in your public interpretation of Nazism... Or both.

 

[BonkTastic]

Lol and the USA spends an absolute ton of money on social welfare in the form of Medicare and social security .

But it's not "real" social welfare. Shhh

And they spend exponentially more than they need to on these programs simply because they refuse to regulate the insurance industry, and allow them to exploit Americans at a criminal scale.

American politicians will on one hand call those programs "unaffordable", and that the only soluton is to dissolve, cut or neuter those programs because insurance companies have enabled hospitals and physicians to charge life-crippling predatory rates completely out of line with literally the rest of the world's medical infrastructure, and with the other hand accept political funding from insurance companies in exchange for ensuring that the status quo continues.

It's the easiest fix in the world, but regulating anything in the 'States is seen as basically Stalinism 2.0, so it'll never fly, because nothing screams "America" quite like going bankrupt to afford necessary medical coverage so that millionaires you've never met can become billionaires.

 

[18Hossa]

Not sure why you’re saying that but when I was a kid my “friends” used to draw them all over my binders and notebooks and call me a dirty Jew. Course they were just kids.

I knew a few guys like this in my highschool. Most of them just doodled the swastikas for something to do, but one of them escalated.
He ended up suspended for most of our grade 12 year because he harrased another student over being jewish(he wasnt) and harrassed and vandalized his house/cars.
Teen charged in swastika vandalism has history of violence, family says | CBC News

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Yeah, its a known fact we spend more per capita for things, and get less return than other countries. It sucks.

I can attest to medical bankruptcy, as when I was younger we lost everything due to my dads medical bills, house, job, etc. It sucks to lose everything all because you happen to become sick. It's why here in the USA if a politician is not for Universal Healthcare and the abolishment of ICE, you don't get my vote. We just had our primary voting here in MI, the guy I voted for Governor lost to the candidate who won't support universal healthcare, therefore I will not be voting for her come November.

You don't support those 2 platforms, I will never vote for you.

 

[BonkTastic]

I knew a few guys like this in my highschool. Most of them just doodled the swastikas for something to do, but one of them escalated.
He ended up suspended for most of our grade 12 year because he harrased another student over being jewish(he wasnt) and harrassed and vandalized his house/cars.
Teen charged in swastika vandalism has history of violence, family says | CBC News

The person in that article sounds mentally unwell. I hope he got help for his very obvious issues.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Yeah, its a known fact we spend more per capita for things, and get less return than other countries. It sucks.

I can attest to medical bankruptcy, as when I was younger we lost everything due to my dads medical bills, house, job, etc. It sucks to lose everything all because you happen to become sick. It's why here in the USA if a politician is not for Universal Healthcare and the abolishment of ICE, you don't get my vote. We just had our primary voting here in MI, the guy I voted for Governor lost to the candidate who won't support universal healthcare, therefore I will not be voting for her come November.

You don't support those 2 platforms, I will never vote for you.

Its what Jesus would do.

 

[BonkTastic]

That's not what supply side Jesus would want.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Its what Jesus would do.

 

[OmniSens]

Does anyone know any stores that sell S'mores pies? Loblaws used to carry it as a season item, but it's been years since they discontinued it.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

You’re only 34 and already on to “the kids nowadays” thing... lol

I've been doing the "today's kids" for years though, ever since I was hitting on a younger lady and she didn't know what South Park was (I was 29 and she was like 22)

That being said I grew up in Europe so I guess kid-me's perspective on swastikas and Nazism is different from people who grew up in North America. I got to live in cities that had been razed to the ground (Rotterdam) so I find the notion of children acting like Nazism is cool to be unfathomable, I mean it, why would someone profess love for something that destroyed so much?

EDIT: also I'm a francophone so I will take this opportunity to share with you that English's tendency to capitalize everything bothers me a good deal: nazism doesn't deserve a capital letter unless it is the first word of a sentence.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

I've been doing the "today's kids" for years though, ever since I was hitting on a younger lady and she didn't know what South Park was (I was 29 and she was like 22)

That being said I grew up in Europe so I guess kid-me's perspective on swastikas and Nazism is different from people who grew up in North America. I got to live in cities that had been razed to the ground (Rotterdam) so I find the notion of children acting like Nazism is cool to be unfathomable, I mean it, why would someone profess love for something that destroyed so much?

To be honest, my son is 20 and he says the “kids today” thing !!! lol

 

[Icelevel]

I've been doing the "today's kids" for years though, ever since I was hitting on a younger lady and she didn't know what South Park was (I was 29 and she was like 22)

That being said I grew up in Europe so I guess kid-me's perspective on swastikas and Nazism is different from people who grew up in North America. I got to live in cities that had been razed to the ground (Rotterdam) so I find the notion of children acting like Nazism is cool to be unfathomable, I mean it, why would someone profess love for something that destroyed so much?

EDIT: also I'm a francophone so I will take this opportunity that you anglo's tendency to capitalize everything bothers me. Nazism doesn't deserve a capital letter unless it is the first word of a sentence.

It’s a good question actually worthy of investigating deeply. Maybe not here though.
Like, what exactly is it that a kid would find so attractive about the swastika? It is not JUST a design to them.
Today it could be a pro trump thing.