Could also have been about the no movement provision which Poile has been hard nosed about. Who knows? It’s done.When did Poile offer this deal? What did Saros request?
We are all ignorant of what the numbers and term being tossed around were ... or when this agreed upon offer was actually made.
Here's hoping they don't get to the hearing. A 1- or 2-year deal for Saros could put us in a vulnerable position. I will be very surprised if Saros is asking for ridiculous money. Like with Fiala... asking for $6.25M and the Wild offering $4M... it'll be something like that, I suspect. If there is a "ridiculous" component in the process right now, I would gamble on it being on the Team side instead of the Player side.
Fiala could be available.Now sign Tolvanen or trade him for better.
Based on insider news then Cap Friendly, TSN and the tennessean published the deal. I will say Cap Friendly said incomplete info.(not wrong info; just incomplete). But perhaps the club is under some sort of NHL/NHLPA rule.Official announcements always come way after the insider breaks the news.
The team will probably wait until he actually signs the deal. It's probably only agreed to at this point
Ideally Poile would have just offered this contract 2 months ago, because we all know it's fair and what Saros earned. Instead of offering $3.5M or whatever he might have offered and starting everything off down this path. Just a waste of time on Poile's part is what it was. We aren't in a Cap position where we need to try to ram through any contract bargains on our best players.
I think you're being a little naive if you think they couldn't have settled on this contract 2 months ago, yes.You really think if he starts with that offer 2 months ago, Saros agent just says "duh, ok"?
There's no way you open with your top dollar in a negotiation.I think you're being a little naive if you think they couldn't have settled on this contract 2 months ago, yes.
"Negotiations have just started," Poile said of Saros. "I couldn't tell you whether it's going to be tomorrow or in three weeks. I don't think it ever serves any purpose (to estimate). Let's just leave it at that."
Poile expressed confidence in signing Saros, along with Forsberg and Ekholm, though negotiations with the latter two have not yet begun
Poile is managing a budget. Saros is maximizing income. There is a contract. Hence negotiation. It’s business; not personal.There's no way you open with your top dollar in a negotiation.
100%. Both had conflicting interests as well as common ones, the negotiation is has to take both in account. Neither side wants to leave money on the table. It's a process.Poile is managing a budget. Saros is maximizing income. There is a contract. Hence negotiation. It’s business; not personal.
Exactly. And yet, we all knew the number and the term 2 months ago. Even if it's not directly your "opening bid" on either side, they could have hit these numbes 2 months ago.There's no way you open with your top dollar in a negotiation.
Exactly. And yet, we all knew the number and the term 2 months ago. Even if it's not directly your "opening bid" on either side, they could have hit these numbes 2 months ago.
Yeah, that would be weird. Saros was our Best Player last year. He was our MVP. I'm not in a camp that thinks that is necessarily sustainable or anything, but he was. If you think he wasn't, I think you didn't watch our games. He has his warts. But at the same time, he pulled us through. If your "schedule" can't make room for that, esp. given our historic #1/rafters/HOF goalie just retired... uh... some priorities are off.apparently, they didn't start until August, and we don't know why, but it seems it was scheduled that way.
Your insistence that Poile do things on your timeline is a little strange not the fact that the player was given a chance to go relax and have a vacation after the season ended.Yeah, that would be weird. Saros was our Best Player last year. He was our MVP. I'm not in a camp that thinks that is necessarily sustainable or anything, but he was. If you think he wasn't, I think you didn't watch our games. He has his warts. But at the same time, he pulled us through. If your "schedule" can't make room for that, esp. given our historic #1/rafters/HOF goalie just retired... uh... some priorities are off.
How do you know Saros didn't tell Poile, "hey, let's work on this contract but I'm going home for a month first"?Yeah, that would be weird. Saros was our Best Player last year. He was our MVP. I'm not in a camp that thinks that is necessarily sustainable or anything, but he was. If you think he wasn't, I think you didn't watch our games. He has his warts. But at the same time, he pulled us through. If your "schedule" can't make room for that, esp. given our historic #1/rafters/HOF goalie just retired... uh... some priorities are off.
Exactly. And yet, we all knew the number and the term 2 months ago. Even if it's not directly your "opening bid" on either side, they could have hit these numbes 2 months ago.
Yeah, that would be weird. Saros was our Best Player last year. He was our MVP. I'm not in a camp that thinks that is necessarily sustainable or anything, but he was. If you think he wasn't, I think you didn't watch our games. He has his warts. But at the same time, he pulled us through. If your "schedule" can't make room for that, esp. given our historic #1/rafters/HOF goalie just retired... uh... some priorities are off.
Done.Is this signing not worthy of a thread with an appropriate title? I object to lumping it into the arb thread. But I’m too lazy and incompetent to solve it myself.