Player Discussion Sam Steel

[bumperkisser]

steel looks good. really driivng that 3rd line imo. best of the kids imo. comtois has scored the goals but he's been right palce right time vs actually creating his goals

 

[Kalv]

He's about to be 23, that is the same age when Rakell started to come together as well. On a different level, but that's when Getzy became a PPG player, Perry scoring 30 goals, etc.
I expect the same with Tracey.

Us fans are often imagining the prospects will produce early, but 5 years is often the time needed for a prospect to start realizing the real potential.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Us fans are often imagining the prospects will produce early, but 5 years is often the time needed for a prospect to start realizing the real potential.

I’ve always been in that similar mindset - takes about 4-6 years for a prospect to really put it together. It’s just these players coming out of the draft are so elite that fans harp on prospects that ‘haven’t developed’ past year 2

 

[gilfaizon]

Steel is flying out there, i predicted this would be the year that he would finally play with that confidence he's possessed in lower levels. Just took some time to get his feet wet.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I agree, he looks a lot faster than last year. Previous seasons he was content to dump the puck in or make low-risk plays but he’s shown much more poise and confidence offensively so far

 

[Hockey Duckie]

He's about to be 23, that is the same age when Rakell started to come together as well. On a different level, but that's when Getzy became a PPG player, Perry scoring 30 goals, etc.
I expect the same with Tracey.

Us fans are often imagining the prospects will produce early, but 5 years is often the time needed for a prospect to start realizing the real potential.

None of them were top-10 picks either. Zegras, 9th overall, is pushing for NHL time already. Drysdale, 6th overall, is 18 years old and would be in our top-4 today.

I was hoping for Steel to breakout last year, but he wasn't ready and was overwhelmed. He's taken steps to look better this year, but I'm hoping he continues to improve the following year in getting even stronger.

 

[bumperkisser]

In what world is Drysdale in our top 4 today...

 

[Kalv]

None of them were top-10 picks either. Zegras, 9th overall, is pushing for NHL time already. Drysdale, 6th overall, is 18 years old and would be in our top-4 today.

I was hoping for Steel to breakout last year, but he wasn't ready and was overwhelmed. He's taken steps to look better this year, but I'm hoping he continues to improve the following year in getting even stronger.

As bad as Manson has looked so far, Drysdale is not in our top 4 or top 6.
But yeah, I think the man body just start to get in peak performance around 23 year age.

 

[bsu]

Drysdale would be good right now defending 1 on 1 and rushing the puck but he would literally lose every single 50/50 battle at this current time. He is not one of our top 4 defensemen right now.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

As bad as Manson has looked so far, Drysdale is not in our top 4 or top 6.
But yeah, I think the man body just start to get in peak performance around 23 year age.

Drysdale would be good right now defending 1 on 1 and rushing the puck but he would literally lose every single 50/50 battle at this current time. He is not one of our top 4 defensemen right now.

Drysdale is better than all of our 5/6/7 guys today. Fortunately, we have a top-4 to prevent him from breaking into the league, which we did not do with Fowler. Do I want Drysdale in the NHL today? No. I do think he's exceeded the CHL and testing out the AHL is a good litmus test. Again, we pushed Fowler as an 18-year old due to need on defense. We pushed Lundestrom as an 18-year old due a need in centers. The additions of Shattenkirk and Hutton will stave that necessity to rush Drysdale. This org has a history of pushing 18-year olds due to necessity of talent infusion.

The point I was trying sharing was that with top-10 guys, their trajectory is different from late first round picks if they're on point. Zegras is already at the AHL level (due to signing a contract as an NCAA'er). Tracey, who was selected in the same draft year as Zegras as well as selected in the first round, is probably a few years away from the NHL.

 

[bsu]

Drysdale is better than all of our 5/6/7 guys today. Fortunately, we have a top-4 to prevent him from breaking into the league, which we did not do with Fowler. Do I want Drysdale in the NHL today? No. I do think he's exceeded the CHL and testing out the AHL is a good litmus test. Again, we pushed Fowler as an 18-year old due to need on defense. We pushed Lundestrom as an 18-year old due a need in centers. The additions of Shattenkirk and Hutton will stave that necessity to rush Drysdale. This org has a history of pushing 18-year olds due to necessity of talent infusion.

The point I was trying sharing was that with top-10 guys, their trajectory is different from late first round picks if they're on point. Zegras is already at the AHL level (due to signing a contract as an NCAA'er). Tracey, who was selected in the same draft year as Zegras as well as selected in the first round, is probably a few years away from the NHL.

But you said he was top 4... and I would take Hutton and Djoos (cry) over him right now for NHL easily. Larsson is also probably better fit for the NHL than Drysdale at this time. I think if Drysdale played right now he would be similar to how Mahura looked last year.

 

[Kalv]

Drysdale is better than all of our 5/6/7 guys today. Fortunately, we have a top-4 to prevent him from breaking into the league, which we did not do with Fowler. Do I want Drysdale in the NHL today? No. I do think he's exceeded the CHL and testing out the AHL is a good litmus test. Again, we pushed Fowler as an 18-year old due to need on defense. We pushed Lundestrom as an 18-year old due a need in centers. The additions of Shattenkirk and Hutton will stave that necessity to rush Drysdale. This org has a history of pushing 18-year olds due to necessity of talent infusion.

The point I was trying sharing was that with top-10 guys, their trajectory is different from late first round picks if they're on point. Zegras is already at the AHL level (due to signing a contract as an NCAA'er). Tracey, who was selected in the same draft year as Zegras as well as selected in the first round, is probably a few years away from the NHL.

I'm just not convinced about that. It's easier to look good against OHL or even WJC (on a stacked team) opposition than to NHL regulars.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What is going on why is this a drysdale thread... can we go back to Super Sam Steel

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

What is going on why is this a drysdale thread... can we go back to Super Sam Steel

Let's.

Wonder if the number change has anything to do with his improved play. Or maybe I have it backwards.

 

[Kalv]

On the Athletic Stephens reported that the Ducks want Steel to become a checking, matchup center, and not worry about points.

Man, why?

 

[Mr Rogers]

I thought this comment was interesting regarding Steel. I’d rather see if he can contribute offensively on the wing instead of having him play in the role of a shutdown centre. Imo he’d also struggle against quicker and more powerful centres that he’d be asked to go up against.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I thought this comment was interesting regarding Steel. I’d rather see if he can contribute offensively on the wing instead of having him play in the role of a shutdown centre. Imo he’d also struggle against quicker and more powerful centres that he’d be asked to go up against.

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this is infuriating to read, they are really trying to turn him into a grinder. He doesn't have the traits to be a good checking line center, he's small and not particularly fast. Man this organization sucks.

 

[Mr Rogers]

this is infuriating to read, they are really trying to turn him into a grinder. He doesn't have the traits to be a good checking line center, he's small and not particularly fast. Man this organization sucks.

Just the general idea of having a designated shutdown centre who does nothing offensively on your team is a pretty antiquated concept

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Just the general idea of having a designated shutdown centre who does nothing offensively on your team is a pretty antiquated concept

Makes you wonder how long they've been trying to turn him into this, has it been just recently or has this been going on for awhile? They really should have left him with the Gulls

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

On the Athletic Stephens reported that the Ducks want Steel to become a checking, matchup center, and not worry about points.

Man, why?

That’s nice. Except they already have a center in San Diego who was drafted to be a potential shutdown specialist and whom has shown enough offense (more than I expected) in his first pro season to make me believe he could take that role from Steel as early as midseason next year.

 

[Dryish]

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God just freaking trade him now. And fire Bob and Eakins while we're at it.

 

[Frosted Tips]

On the Athletic Stephens reported that the Ducks want Steel to become a checking, matchup center, and not worry about points.

Man, why?

This is pissing me off.

 

[KelVarnsen]

Seriously??? I swear the Ducks value freaking grinders more than actual offensive players. Its no wonder the team cant freaking score. Sigh.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

this is infuriating to read, they are really trying to turn him into a grinder. He doesn't have the traits to be a good checking line center, he's small and not particularly fast. Man this organization sucks.

You're right, if there's anything Ducks fans should know its that a 5'11 guy who isn't a burner has no shot at being a good checking line center.

 

[Goose of Reason]

I think they're asking him to do that because he's been pretty useless off the puck and barely contributing offensively anyway so they'd rather him not be a black hole. Of course I think he should just be in San Diego regaining his confidence.