Player Discussion Sam Reinhart - Is he the real deal?

[Dubi Doo]

When did Reinhart develop such a lethal shot? That goal last night off the feed from Dahlin was nasty.

 

[2 others]

When did Reinhart develop such a lethal shot? That goal last night off the feed from Dahlin was nasty.

That toe drag and hitting the crossbar right before was something else too

 

[Jim Bob]

When did Reinhart develop such a lethal shot? That goal last night off the feed from Dahlin was nasty.

I don't think it is a development thing. I think it is a usage thing.

On the PP for instance, he's in Eichel's spot and not his Net Front spot that he plays in when Eichel is in the lineup. That means that he gets the chance to rip one timers. He never gets those looks with Eichel in the lineup.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

He's a keeper. Heart and soul guy. Always has been. Stop futzing around. Just do it!

 

[EichHart]

He's really good, we need to lock him up long term.

 

[Aladyyn]

When did Reinhart develop such a lethal shot? That goal last night off the feed from Dahlin was nasty.

Already started flashing it last season

 

[Samsonite23]

Already started flashing it last season

Oh god! He's back to burn all of the anti-Reinhart villages!

 

[explore]

Give Reinhart a Pastranak $6.7 million x 6 years contract and sign Dahlin to a Seth Jones $5.4 x 6 years contract

 

[Sabre Dance]

When did Reinhart develop such a lethal shot? That goal last night off the feed from Dahlin was nasty.

He's always had it.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Give Reinhart a Pastranak $6.7 million x 6 years contract and sign Dahlin to a Seth Jones $5.4 x 6 years contract

I think we'll have to add to get him to stay. Anything in the 8 range should be a fair contract. I don't think we'll regret it.

 

[explore]

He's always had it.

Reinhart's shot was notoriously awful his first stint in the NHL, Bylsma called it a "muffin" shot. He primarily scored garbage goals in front of the net through redirects, but now his shot is genuinely good and he can score from a lot of different places because he's been forced to become a focal point of the offense due to Eichel's injury

I think we'll have to add to get him to stay. Anything in the 8 range should be a fair contract. I don't think we'll regret it.

$8 million per is terrible asset management in re-signing Reinhart, though I wouldn't be surprised if he and his agent decided to test their luck and sign only a 1-year contract in order test UFA

Reinhart is playing very well now, but he's still on pace for 60 points over a full 82-game season. He's not an $8 million dollar forward

 

[Samsonite23]

Reinhart's shot was notoriously awful his first stint in the NHL, Bylsma called it a "muffin" shot. He primarily scored garbage goals in front of the net through redirects, but now his shot is genuinely good and he can score from a lot of different places because he's been forced to become a focal point of the offense due to Eichel's injury



$8 million per is terrible asset management in re-signing Reinhart, though I wouldn't be surprised if he and his agent decided to test their luck and sign only a 1-year contract in order test UFA

Reinhart is playing very well now, but he's still on pace for 60 points over a full 82-game season. He's not an $8 million dollar forward

I'm usually pretty ignorant on the inner workings of contracts, but I don't think the Pastrnak situation compares to Reinhart's situation. He signed that $6.7x6 contract at 21. He had a bunch of RFA years left while Reinhart only has 1. That makes a huge difference. Combine that with him now playing center and being on pace for 37 goals this year....he's getting $8M.

 

[Jim Bob]

$8 million per is terrible asset management in re-signing Reinhart, though I wouldn't be surprised if he and his agent decided to test their luck and sign only a 1-year contract in order test UFA

Reinhart is playing very well now, but he's still on pace for 60 points over a full 82-game season. He's not an $8 million dollar forward

He's on a 38 goal & 62 point pace for an 82 game season.

Skinner got $9M per year for 8 years with a full NMC for essentially the same season. Except he did get to play with Eichel for the majority of that season.

 

[Fezzy126]

Since the pandemic started here is a list of every player contract signed with a cap hit over $6M AAV (from Capfriendly).

PLAYER	SIGNING DATE	CLAUSE	LENGTH	EXPIRY	CAP HIT	SALARY
94. Mathew Barzal	9-Jan-21		3	RFA	$7,000,000	$4,000,000
19. Alex Pietrangelo	12-Oct-20	NMC	7	UFA	$8,800,000	$5,000,000
41. Taylor Hall	11-Oct-20	NMC	1	UFA	$8,000,000	$8,000,000
15. Jacob Markström	9-Oct-20	NMC	6	UFA	$6,000,000	$4,000,000
28. Torey Krug	9-Oct-20	NTC	7	UFA	$6,500,000	$4,000,000
65. Matt Murray	9-Oct-20		4	UFA	$6,250,000	$4,000,000

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Last year Evolving Hockey's contract projections had Sam getting around 6 years x $7M AAV. I tend to think even that's a little high given that only 3 contracts over $7M have been handed out in the past year, and even if he does sign for term it is likely to be backloaded cash-wise while the league recovers from the losses of this year and last.

With Sam playing center and doing as well as he is, it's a win-win for us. Offer him a long term contract at whatever is deemed fair (Covid) market value, if he's willing to sign great. If not sell him to the highest bidder in a hockey trade - his value as a center should be astronomical.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Reinhart's shot was notoriously awful his first stint in the NHL, Bylsma called it a "muffin" shot. He primarily scored garbage goals in front of the net through redirects, but now his shot is genuinely good and he can score from a lot of different places because he's been forced to become a focal point of the offense due to Eichel's injury

When he was a rookie he was in the 90's for the skill competition. Not amazing but not a muffin shot.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Reinhart is a very productive player. I don't see how Buffalo can ever build a successful team with him being paid a market salary. Skinner and Okposo contracts are knees to the throat.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Already started flashing it last season

You are back?

 

[HaNotsri]

Already started flashing it last season

Welcome back! Maybe you can counter all the giraffe memes with muffins/cupcakes?

 

[Buffaloed]

Credit goes to Eichel. He's been using mental telepathy to control Sam's play. Those PP one-timers from the off wing and the empty netter were all Eichel's doing. Before you pay Sam the big bucks, bear in mind that Jack only has enough bandwidth to for one player so when Jack returns, Sam will be on his own.

 

[HaNotsri]

Reinhart is a very productive player. I don't see how Buffalo can ever build a successful team with him being paid a market salary. Skinner and Okposo contracts are knees to the throat.

Okposo is gone soon. Skinner can be bought out in two years. Then there's the possible salvation of a compliance buyout.

Even with the albatross deals we'll have plenty of elc players and the market for bottom 6 players is really cheap since all the teams spend their cap on stars.

 

[HaNotsri]

Credit goes to Eichel. He's been using mental telepathy to control Sam's play. Those PP one-timers from the off wing and the empty netter were all Eichel's doing. Before you pay Sam the big bucks, bear in mind that Jack only has enough bandwidth to for one player so when Jack returns, Sam will be on his own.

Eichel's injury comes from Sam using a brainprobe inserted through the neck to steal his scoring ability.

 

[Aladyyn]

Welcome back! Maybe you can counter all the giraffe memes with muffins/cupcakes?

I don't think anyone has the power to do that

You are back?

I haven't been able to keep up with the team much these past few months, hopefully that will change soon and I can start being more active again.

 

[Buffaloed]

Samson and Goliath will make mincemeat out of those giraffes.

 

[sufferer]

Muffin shot to stale muffin shot. You could break your teeth on those things.

 

[Kublakhan]

He's on a 38 goal & 62 point pace for an 82 game season.

Skinner got $9M per year for 8 years with a full NMC for essentially the same season. Except he did get to play with Eichel for the majority of that season.

Who cares what Skinner got, sure he took our cap to the woodshed but that doesn't mean every other player should get a sweetheart deal.. I would give Sam his 8 years at 7 million and that's it..