Player Discussion Sam Reinhart - Is he the real deal?

[Beerz]

6.5-7 .. otherwise.. trade his ass.

 

[Snippit]

6.5-7 .. otherwise.. trade his ass.

There is no scenario where trading our 2nd best forward helps us.

 

[VaporTrail]

I haven't watched any games in about 2 months as I gave up on the season, but I just noticed he only has 22g 28a 50p in 66 games riding alongside Eichel all season ? That is horrible... 6 million a season might be too much for him

 

[stokes84]

Eichel and Reinhart disappearing the last four games bothers me. Eichel has the built in injury excuse, but what is Reinhart’s excuse?

 

[Royisgone]

There is no scenario where trading our 2nd best forward helps us.

If someone out there pulls a Botterill and we get back more--or a lot more--than we give away, the deal could easily help us.

 

[Kyndig]

Eichel and Reinhart disappearing the last four games bothers me. Eichel has the built in injury excuse, but what is Reinhart’s excuse?

I'm one of the last people to defend Reinhart but hes playing with two linemates that are clearly injured.

 

[Kublakhan]

Well if he wants to play with Jack in the best years of his career maybe he can take a slight discount, if he would walk and go to a good team he would be best third line RW and not have close to the player Jack is to feed him his 20-25 goals.. Plus the guy is still notorious for taking huge parts of the season off, even more so when Jack is not playing with him.. 6.5 to 7 that's it..

 

[Fezzy126]

its not a good idea to use a contract from 4 years ago regardless of accounting for % of cap.

4 years ago the cost of UFA seasons was significantly different than it is today.

a long term Reinhart deal buys significant UFA years that will be negotiated with today’s rates Front and center

What data do you have that supports this?

For sure there are some outliers, but when I set filters for contract signings over the past 5 years for:

• Forwards only
• Contract length 5-7 years
• Signing age 24-27
• PPG of 0.6-0.9 in their contract year

Almost all contracts signed range between 6% to 10%, but the average contract is ~7.5% for the entire range and there isn't a linear growth pattern.

 

[sabremike]

If someone out there pulls a Botterill and we get back more--or a lot more--than we give away, the deal could easily help us.

Every other GM views him as a sucker to be conned so what the hell do you expect would happen if he trades Sam? No sane or reasonable person should want to see Botts trade Sam because it would end up an unmitigated disaster.

 

[debaser66]

It will cost around 8mil for 8 years
You buy out Skinner before you trade Reinhart

 

[Sabre Dance]

I'm one of the last people to defend Reinhart but hes playing with two linemates that are clearly injured.

Reinhart is basically a #1 overall pick. I've yet to see him do anything on his own. It's been O'Reilly or Eichel carrying Reinhart his whole career. Reinhart has played the sidekick role pretty well but we needed him at some point to become a dominant player. It's never going to happen here unless a coach that actually knows what he's doing can bring it out of him.

 

[Buffaloed]

Reinhart is Ranch in a city where Blue Cheese is the real deal.
Ranch is ok if that's all you have.

 

[Tatanka]

Reinhart is Ranch in a city where Blue Cheese is the real deal.
Ranch is ok if that's all you have.

I’ll just leave this here

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[Beerz]

There is no scenario where trading our 2nd best forward helps us.

Good thing I want to trade our 4th best.

 

[Beerz]

I'm one of the last people to defend Reinhart but hes playing with two linemates that are clearly injured.

Yes..the two that carry him. It's a valid excuse I agree.

 

[Aladyyn]

Good thing I want to trade our 4th best.

Larsson is UFA, we won't get much for him

 

[Snippit]

Good thing I want to trade our 4th best.

Absurd.

 

[Sabre the Win]

If we trade Reinhart we arent getting a better player back.

Good thing I want to trade our 4th best.

Your scouting report sucks

 

[Artemis Clyde Frog]

It's tricky since he's still a good finisher and probably the best player on the team at deflections. But his overall play otherwise this season has been among the worst on the team imo. Maybe the worst.

7 tops.

 

[Beerz]

If we trade Reinhart we arent getting a better player back.
Your scouting report sucks

I'll take a less talented player with an appetite for winning over a floater going thru the motions.

 

[Sabre the Win]

I'll take a less talented player with an appetite for winning over a floater going thru the motions.

Awesome, guys who skate hard but have no scoring prowess.

Exactly what the Sabres need....
.

 

[Aladyyn]

I'll take a less talented player with an appetite for winning over a floater going thru the motions.

Dumbest narrative of the season.

 

[Beerz]

Awesome, guys who skate hard but have no scoring prowess.

Exactly what the Sabres need....
.

Yes..that's exactly what I'd want someone who cant score.

 

[Dirty Dog]

It's tricky since he's still a good finisher and probably the best player on the team at deflections. But his overall play otherwise this season has been among the worst on the team imo. Maybe the worst.

7 tops.

Oh boy

 

[Sabre the Win]

Yes..that's exactly what I'd want someone who cant score.

We know, we dont need confirmation because someone who scores 22 goals and puts up 50 points in 66 games isn't good enough for you.