Salary Cap: Salary Cap/UFA/RFA Discussion

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  1. NA Scouting

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    I think Bergevin makes a move for Sharp at the deadline and re-signs him in the summer.

    Then Emelin gets taken in expansion draft and Plekanec is traded over the summer. I would see a replacement for Pleky, a big guy who can play 2nd or 3rd line C, solid defensively and can chip in some points for about 3 or 4 M. We will have more than enough room to add a solid player IF Emelin and Pleky are gone. A trade for Duchene would be pretty nice.

    Radulov gets 3 years, $6.75M
    Galchenyuk gets 6 years, $6.75M
    Flynn gets 1 year, $900k
    Markov gets 2 years, $4.0M
    Beaulieu gets 1 year, $2.0M
    Sharp gets 2 years, $3.0M
    Hudon gets 1 year, 0.6M

    2017-18

    Shaw (3.9) - Galchenyuk (6.75) - Radulov (6.75)
    Pacioretty (4.5) - Danault (0.92) - Sharp (3.0)
    Lehkonen (0.84) - UFA (4.0) - Gallagher (3.75)
    Byron (1.17) - McCarron (0.86) - Mitchell (1.2)
    extra: Flynn (0.9), Hudon (0.6)

    Beaulieu (2.0) - Weber (7.85)
    Sergachyev (0.93) - Petry (5.5)
    Markov (4.0) - Pateryn (0.8)
    extra: Barberio (0.75)

    Price (6.5) - Montoya (1.1)

    TOTAL: $68.07M

    ::: AHL :::

    Carr - Audette - Terry
    Matteau - UFA - Scherbak
    Farnham - De La Rose - Friberg
    Eisenschmid - Gregoire - Addison
    *Bradley

    Hanley - Redmond
    Johnston - Juulsen
    Parisi - Lernout
    *Bourque

    Lindgren - McNiven - Fucale


    For the AHL squad, I see a couple of Francophone players getting signed to play in Laval. Also, I think Lindgren could be promoted with a good training camp and Montoya waived/traded/loaned. I would like to see Fucale and McNiven getting a lot of ice time in AHL.
     
  2. jfm133

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    Emelin won't be exposed in the expansion draft. He will be traded after the season. Some teams weak on D will be able to protect him.
     
  3. dackelljuneaubulis02

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    how much pro contract room do we have?

    Really hope Reway can resume his career without any ill effects.
     
  4. Tomas Tatahhh

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    We are at 47 right now:

    Flynn, Farnham, Terry, Andrighetto, Johnston, DLR, Lindgren, MacMillan, Racine, Thrower, Crisp, Hudon, Matteau, Samuelsson, Hanley and Friberg are UFA/RFA. In bold are the ones I expect to be back.
     
  5. montreal

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    this year we are at 47, with 6 or 7 incoming plus any undrafted FA's minus the contract we lose in the expansion draft and any trades. So we'll have to see who is re-signed and who isn't.
     
  6. dackelljuneaubulis02

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    thanks. yeah that makes sense. Should have enough room to sign all those guys no problem.
     
  7. montreal

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    now down to 46 contracts and 2,439,098 in cap space. Not a lot of room to make a big splash without creating space unless they wait till the deadline when they look to have over 4M in space and counting.
     
  8. Habsfan2992

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    After this year

    Who comes off the books and how much cap space will we have. I'm thinking with the small moves made within the last couple of days and still having some space, should the team have a ton of money to get some really good players for next year? Aren't most of our core still signed through next year? I'm unsure about all of this hence the questions. If we do have a lot coming off the books perhaps Bergy has put all of this into consideration and the real run for the cup will be next year.
     
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    According to Cap Friendly (link provided by Habsawce), we will have 22.42M come off the books from all the RFA's and UFA's.

    Add to that the 2.55M we already have in cap room now and it's a total of 24.97M. So bascally 25M.

    Players on our current roster who will be free agents:

    RFA
    Galchenyuk
    Beaulieu
    Nesterov

    UFA
    Radulov
    Markov
    King
    Flynn
    Ott
    Martinsen
     
  11. Habsfan2992

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    Damn it seems all the bad contracts come off after next season then we have to re-sign our core ...ouch
     
  12. Adam Michaels

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    But that's what the smart part is. As an example, both Plekanec and Emelin come off the books after next season. That is a total of 10.1M in cap space. We can use part of that to give Price's raise. By then, Galchenyuk and (hopefully) Radulov will already be signed. And if all of these guys are locked in, then we only have Pacioretty the year after that. As things stand now because we don't know what other acquisitions and contracts the Habs will have to deal with.

    That is why many GM's covet prospects. Because their small contracts permit them to go after big fish.
     
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    I would only sign:

    RFA
    Galchenyuk
    Beaulieu
    Nesterov(Maybe)

    UFA
    Radulov
    Markov(At right price)
    King(Maybe)

    I would trade Plekanec away, maybe even Emelin if the need arises.

    The last 2 can help us shed another 10.1 million IF we need it. Cap space without using it is useless.
     
  14. Habsawce

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    They're in good cap position, basically.
     
  15. Habsfan2992

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    Sweet

    So we'll have all of that cap money after next year yes?
     
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  17. Habsfan2992

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    Wow very nice thank you. It looks like we'll be just fine and most certainly be able to keep up with the heavy hitters of the league if not surpass them. Excited days are ahead!
     
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    Bergevin is not unanimously loved. But one of his biggest qualities is cap management. You look at Plekanec as an example. He only got a two-year extension. It might be a bigger salary, but that was the price to pay for Pleky to accept signing for two seasons. And why did Bergevin give that to Pleky? Because he absolutely wanted his contract to end at the same time as Price. So he can use part of Pleky's cap to extend Price.

    Even though it was three years ago, Emelin was signed for 4 years and not more because Bergevin foresaw that Price's contract was up the same time. And he didn't know what the cap situation would be 4 years in advance, but he had Emelin's deal expire the same time Price's does.
     
  19. Habsfan2992

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    Very cool
     
  20. Talks to Goalposts

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    Not really, they are in a good position to hold fast with what they have, bad position to make major new additions. The league itself has collectively gotten much less cap stupid in recent years so there isn't much comparative advantage to the Habs' current position. For example, the only spot they are projected to have above replacment level players making replacement level money is depth scoring wingers, which is OK, but not great for cap managment purposes.

    Habs are decently positioned to hold their ground as an above average team next season. Not in a good spot to move into a higher tier and poorly positioned for long-term given how grey their core has gotten (only 2 core pieces are younger than 28, which is when players begin to decline on standard aging curves).
     
  21. TennisMenace

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    I hope they can resign the two big guys we picked up today- King and Martinsen. I have a feeling we will appreciate having more bigger bodies and both should not cost a lot. Martinsen likes to hit people and King is such a large body. I would like to build on guys like these, knowing they are 3/4 guys.

    Also, it may be time to part ways with Markov. He is getting old in the tooth, slowing down, and not nearly as productive. Besides, we now have 8 Dmen and I'm hoping Sergachev can make the team next year.
     
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  22. Habsawce

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    Markov is their best defenseman right now.
     
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    Habsfan2992 One of the 1st

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    Agreed
     
  24. dackelljuneaubulis02

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    Plus the cap always goes up just enough anyways. We'll be fine. I don't understand all the worry about losing whoever.
     
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    Weber? Petry?
     
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