Honour Over Glory
Fire Sully
- Jan 30, 2012
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Well, if it could be a reality it really shouldn't be. I don't see how giving up such a player moves us forward. If we are to part with someone we need to deal from a position of strength or deal a player who needs a change of scenery. We're stacked at RW, if there's one position we can deal from and still retain plenty of quality and depth, that would be where to go.It's funny to think if you entertained the thought at the end of last season of moving either, Dumoulin or Jake, you'd have every erupt here in just calling anyone that dared propose it - an idiot.
Now, it could be a reality thanks to the spot we are in.
What a time to be a Pens fan.
Well, if it could be a reality it really shouldn't be. I don't see how giving up such a player moves us forward. If we are to part with someone we need to deal from a position of strength or deal a player who needs a change of scenery. We're stacked at RW, if there's one position we can deal from and still retain plenty of quality and depth, that would be where to go.
And I'm not keen on giving up Rust or his speed, but the cupboard would be far from empty (at that position) if in fact he was moved. I think a package of Maatta and Rust would bring quite a bit. Although again I'd hate to lose Rusts speed. In any case that IMO is a much better way to manage our assets.
Just a fair warning, I have nothing better to do right now and can't sleep. Consider the below a "fan-fic" and not what I want to actually happen.
Acquiring Nylander would certainly be a wake up call, considering what the Pens would have to move to get him. I'm assuming Brassard, Guentzel, Maatta, Sheahan, and perhaps Sprong would be gone. Not in the same deal, mind you.
Pens trade Guentzel, Maatta, and picks/prospects to Toronto for Nylander. Nylander then re-signs for max term. No clue on what he wants for salary and I'm not going to look it up. Toronto gets a young LW playoff performer and a LD that Babcock can fix. One of Gardiner, Hainsey, or Rielly now plays RD because of reasons. Pens get a versatile young center.
Pens then trade Brassard to a team looking for a 2nd line center. For the heck of it, let's say Winnipeg. Winnipeg then sends back Perreault and depth/picks/prospects. (Or maybe Detroit would like him for the price of Anthanasiou)
Sheahan is then jettisoned for a late round draft pick. Same with Sprong because of Sullivan. Or not. Riikola gains confidence and becomes a Calder candidate.
Magically, the salary cap works and the Pens are left with:
Pearson-Crosby-Simon
(Perreault/Anthanasiou)-Malkin-Kessel
Rust-Nylander-Hornqvist
Di Pauli-Blueger-Angello (Sprong)
Cullen-ZAR
Johnson-Letang
Dumoulin-Riikola
Oleksiak-Ruhwedel
Joe Morrow?
(Schultz)
Murray
DeSmith
And then a few years down the line the Pens sign Trocheck. And slowly phase out Sid and Geno.
The end.
Still think if fully healthy they are...OK?
They just gotta get smarter with lineup decisions/tighten up x's and o's and try out more youth. Sample lineup:
Jake-Sid-Simon
Rust-G-Phil
Pearson-Brass-Horny
x-Cullen-x
x's are 2 of ZAR, Sprong, Haggerty, Angello, etc.
Dumo-Letang
Riiko-Schultz
JJ-Ruh/Rig
CDS till he looks like ass then it's Jarry's turn.
Give Murr all the time he needs.
They NEED to play Riiko and pray Schultz gets back quick. Ruh can fill in, in the meantime.
Olli, Sheahan are the guys i jettison immediately.
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Mario: You've made the team old and slow, what's the next step in your master plan?
JR: Crashing this team, with no survivors
Which big guy do you think Rutheford will get?
That forward group should be so much more potent than they look most nights. It's actually pretty frustrating that that group of forwards (regardless of who is on the 4th line) can't score.
Here are the percentages for goals
Top 6 - 70% (42 goals)
Bottom 6 - 12% (7 goals)
Defense - 18% (11 goals)
I don’t see how you fire an assistant in season and not the head coach.
Sheahan is then jettisoned for a late round draft pick. Same with Sprong because of Sullivan. Or not. Riikola gains confidence and becomes a Calder candidate.
Hold on to your butts.
I could see him taking some extraordinary measures to try and find a way to try and spark this thing and get it going, because time’s a wastin here.
McKenzie on Rutherford: “I’m not sure he’s finished dealing yet”
Mckenzie is the only guy I believe anymore when it comes to this stuff.Hold on to your butts.
I could see him taking some extraordinary measures to try and find a way to try and spark this thing and get it going, because time’s a wastin here.
McKenzie on Rutherford: “I’m not sure he’s finished dealing yet”
That’s the current price he’s given the leafs.Last thread someone said Nylander is wanting 8M a year, easy pass if true..
Hold on to your butts.
I could see him taking some extraordinary measures to try and find a way to try and spark this thing and get it going, because time’s a wastin here.
McKenzie on Rutherford: “I’m not sure he’s finished dealing yet”
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Mario: You've made the team old and slow, what's the next step in your master plan?
JR: Crashing this team, with no survivors
Likely to shut up the media about it, then in turn...Sprong ended up looking good with Simon and now he'd be an idiot not to play the two together in the next game and this time, with a better offensive center than whatever Sheahan has turned into (which is far worse than what Blashill turned him into in Detroit).Sprong played more then Simon did in the Ottawa game.
Likely to shut up the media about it, then in turn...Sprong ended up looking good with Simon and now he'd be an idiot not to play the two together in the next game and this time, with a better offensive center than whatever Sheahan has turned into (which is far worse than what Blashill turned him into in Detroit).
The thing is, he deserved it before his last benching, so hopefully he can score a goal in spite of playing with Sheahan.I don't care what the reasoning is... but if he keeps playing like he did, he should get more chances.
The thing is, he deserved it before his last benching, so hopefully he can score a goal in spite of playing with Sheahan.
To start, he was not playing all that well. But the 2-3 games before his press box duty, he was putting together some solid shifts and looked good with Malkin until he was demoted again.Potentially.... but it's not like Sprong was playing all that good...
Mckenzie is the only guy I believe anymore when it comes to this stuff.
Absolutely. Glad he's stayed reliable. Frieddman and Dreiger be damnedFor good reason. The only time he got something Pens-related wrong, it was because Morehouse lied to him.