WeThreeKings
Habs cup - its in the BAG
That's a lot of double speak.
Prospect Info: Ryan Poehling - Part 7
- Thread starter Le Tricolore
- Start date
- Status
That's a lot of double speak.
If he is willing. He was flat out brutal and disinterested in Laval.
Worst thing that could have happened to him was that first NHL game.
I totally disagree with this statement. Eller has good vision and even some decent creativity.
cphabs
The 2 stooges….
- Dec 21, 2012
- 7,701
- 5,167
Kind of agree buddy. If I was his agent? I’d tell him to get the hell out of our franchise as soon as possible.
Nah I think its up to Poehling to roll up his sleeves and take responsibility for his horrendous first season. If he got moved and he still has the same attitude and work ethic...he won't succeed anywhere he lands
Habs4Life
Registered User
cphabs
The 2 stooges….
- Dec 21, 2012
- 7,701
- 5,167
Possibly anther franchise? As long as Drouin is floating around our top 6? I would highly recommend any prospect to GTFO! Unbelievable that UFAs won’t sign here....
He had drive and détermination. He lost it, likely needs to get his head together in Laval this year. Hopefully, he doesn't become another bust.
26Mats
Registered User
- Jun 23, 2018
- 32,177
- 24,654
I'd also like to see him get 1 more full year of development in Laval, playing in all situations. Whether he likes it or not.
dackelljuneaubulis02
Registered User
- Oct 13, 2012
- 11,556
- 6,878
That's interesting if true. I hope it's the case. I wonder if people are being extra persnickety with him because he's a Trumper. Because I'm sorry that quote of him 'pouting' was quite the nothing burger if you ask me.
Hope he can get his act together if he's not traded. I also hope he can do that on the wing.
cphabs
The 2 stooges….
- Dec 21, 2012
- 7,701
- 5,167
No wants to sign with us and our player development is bad news my friend.You want every prospect / FA to GTFO the Habs
azcanuck
Registered User
Generally you can tell by now if a prospect has high end skills or not. He's not 19.
I'm not saying he has NO SKILL. He's could be an above average player, that's his ceiling. And he could bring it in the form of an all around game. That would be great. I like Ryan. I still have hope for him. We need some size and speed on the wing.
cphabs
The 2 stooges….
- Dec 21, 2012
- 7,701
- 5,167
Poehling development reminds me of max pacioretty, i think many have to chill and be patient.
only way i would trade him, is he part of a package for a young impact player.
If not, then let him spend the year in laval like max did in the minors
bellow is max stats... easy to see that ryan is only in year 1 as a pro. To become an nhl reg, it took max 4 years.
[TBODY]
[/TBODY]
only way i would trade him, is he part of a package for a young impact player.
If not, then let him spend the year in laval like max did in the minors
bellow is max stats... easy to see that ryan is only in year 1 as a pro. To become an nhl reg, it took max 4 years.
| 2008-09 | Hamilton Bulldogs | AHL | 37 | 6 | 23 | 29 | 43 | 1 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2008-09 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 34 | 3 | 8 | 11 | 27 | -3 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2009-10 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 52 | 3 | 11 | 14 | 20 | -5 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2009-10 | Hamilton Bulldogs | AHL | 18 | 2 | 9 | 11 | 10 | 12 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
| 2010-11 | Hamilton Bulldogs | AHL | 27 | 17 | 15 | 32 | 20 | 4 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2010-11 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 37 | 14 | 10 | 24 | 39 | -1 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
| 2011-12 | Montreal Canadiens | NHL | 79 | 33 | 32 | 65 | 56 | 2 | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- |
1909
Registered User
- Jul 6, 2016
- 20,690
- 11,289
Poehling was never a good scorer, even at College level. Don't expect Poehling to become another Patches.
Well for the sake of comparison,
Max scored 15 at michigan, ryan scored 14 at st cloud, thus my comparison, as it seems all think max was a natural scorer in college.
1909
Registered User
- Jul 6, 2016
- 20,690
- 11,289
Patches played only ONE season in College, and had more points than games played.
Poehling has played 3 seasons in College and never had more points than games played + in his last season he got only 8 goals and was 6th in his team in points. He was not dominating.
Valid, though i was reply to the fact that ryan was not a goal scorer like max in college
the flip side of ryan you forgot, is the world junior, where he scored at a higher pace then anyone
montreal
Go Habs Go
I watched a lot of both, both were in the NCAA as playmakers, both were on top teams as well. At the same age Pac had a 1.05 ppg to Poehling's .86, but where things go way south is their age 20 season. Now Pac turned 20 about 6 weeks into the season, Poe was about 3 months into.
Pac played 1 more game then Poe, but had more then double the points, granted that was on a much better team offensively. In the NHL, Pac just crushed Poe with over 5 times the production but in 7 more games.
In Hamilton is where Pac started to change his game from playmaker to shooter with just 14 goals in the NHL/AHL in his first 2 seasons and by his 3rd pro season he had 31 between the NHL/AHL in 64 games.
I would be very surprised if Poehling could change his game like that but at the time I wouldn't have said he would end up being one of the top 8 goal scorers in the NHL from '11-'12 to now.
I was never really impressed with Poehling's offensive game where Pac I did like a lot more though he did have much better linemates at Michigan and in Hamilton. So we'll see what this year brings, need badly needs to step it up though as he was just terrible while Pac was certainly looking very solid right off the bat.
Patch had high end skills that Poehling doesn't possess.
I think we may be very surprised at how good he can become by simply doing everything a little bit better each year, but he will never be like Patch. He will either be a lesser player or a complete package kind of guy.
I think he will most likely end up as a complementary winger on a productive line or shipped elsewhere. Could be a good 3rd C, but I don't know if that spot will be available for the taking anytime soon.
I think we may be very surprised at how good he can become by simply doing everything a little bit better each year, but he will never be like Patch. He will either be a lesser player or a complete package kind of guy.
I think he will most likely end up as a complementary winger on a productive line or shipped elsewhere. Could be a good 3rd C, but I don't know if that spot will be available for the taking anytime soon.
A Loyal Dog
I love SlafCaulZuki (pronounced Slafkovsky). Woof!
- Oct 20, 2016
- 9,569
- 11,534
- Status
