Eklund Rumor: Ryan O'Reilly+ for Noah Hanifin

[Stickpucker]

What about Faulk, Darling, Gauthier

For

ROR, Lehner, Bogosian?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Okay let's look at the last 5 seasons then

RoR - 267point in 353 games

staal - 187 points in 334 games

yeah RoR is A LOT BETTER THAN STAAL SORRY

Why stop there? For their entire career:
Jordan Staal = 20 goals / 82 games; 47 points / 82 games
ROR = 19 goals / 82 games; 52 points / 82 games.

But we aren't talking about what they were 5 years ago, we are talking right now and I laid it out very clearly. Right now (and for their whole career), ROR IS SLIGHTLY BETTER OFFENSIVELY THAN STAAL. SORRY. (since you seem to think all caps makes it more right).

Again, you have nothing that backs up your assertion otherwise.

 

[Canes]

If ROR is truly such a stud #1 center, Buffalo should keep him. He's still young and is the perfect center to slot in behind Eichel for the next several years. Looks to be working out well for them now.

 

[Panthaz89]

If ROR is truly such a stud #1 center, Buffalo should keep him. He's still young and is the perfect center to slot in behind Eichel for the next several years. Looks to be working out well for them now.

The article is from a writer...no Sabres fans want to trade ROR at all unless the price is high.

 

[Canes]

The article is from a writer...no Sabres fans want to trade ROR at all unless the price is high.

I realize that. And you could say the exact same thing for us about Hanifin.

Guess we can lock this thread up then.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I don't think they will move him, or won't unless a team drastically overpays, which is where I'd be if I was in their shoes. Like I said before, I'd love to have ROR on the Canes, just not for the price the Sabres (rightfully) would ask.

 

[tsujimoto74]

If ROR is truly such a stud #1 center, Buffalo should keep him. He's still young and is the perfect center to slot in behind Eichel for the next several years. Looks to be working out well for them now.

That's the plan. Only way ROR goes, IMO, is if Buffalo gets offered a hockey trade that's just too good to refuse (and adding to him for Hanifin most certainly does not meet that criteria).

 

[firstemperor]

What about Faulk, Darling, Gauthier

For

ROR, Lehner, Bogosian?

That's really bad for the Sabres, IMO.

Hanifin would have to be part of a return for ROR.

Lehner's a good goaltender

Don't know if a + has to be added per say, but contracts have to be in play for sure to make salaries work. If there were a +, it'd have to be from the Canes IMO.

 

[DarthProbert]

Trading ROR for a defenseman is just playing musical chairs at this point. We don't have the forward talent at the NHL level to take that hit. Maybe in 2 years.

As soon as Mittelstadt is ready...

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

if the Canes can get ROR for Faulk, they should do it

ROR & Staal as their top 2 would be ridiculously hard to play against

 

[Chan790]

That's really bad for the Sabres, IMO.

Hanifin would have to be part of a return for ROR.

Lehner's a good goaltender

Don't know if a + has to be added per say, but contracts have to be in play for sure to make salaries work. If there were a +, it'd have to be from the Canes IMO.

I wouldn't put Hanifin on the table for an ROR-centered offer regardless where the pluses are. It's a non-starter; we don't need another two-way 200'-game guy. The Canes need back a young guy with a 64'-game that can net 70-points/year on-average if we're talking about Hanifin. Hanifin isn't on the table for ROR, neither is Slavin...if that's what Buffalo needs, then both sides should walk away from trade talks now.

It's not a knock on ROR that he's not what we need...but he's not a need and he's not worth burning trades assets on that we may need to move down the road to acquire what we do need.

 

[Not Sure]

I wouldn't put Hanifin on the table for an ROR-centered offer regardless where the pluses are. It's a non-starter; we don't need another two-way 200'-game guy. The Canes need back a young guy with a 64'-game that can net 70-points/year on-average if we're talking about Hanifin. Hanifin isn't on the table for ROR, neither is Slavin...if that's what Buffalo needs, then both sides should walk away from trade talks now.

It's not a knock on ROR that he's not what we need...but he's not a need and he's not worth burning trades assets on that we may need to move down the road to acquire what we do need.

TIL there are teams that don't need more than one skilled defensive minded center. Maybe you should go for Vanek if you really do need a cherry picking forward who only plays in the offensive zone. Not being sarcastic either, Vanek is probably the best offense only player available.

 

[Beerz]

The add for Buffalo would have to be Mittelstadt. To which Buffalo says No.

There is no fit from Montreal.

Good lord.

 

[nickdawg95]

Why stop there? For their entire career:
Jordan Staal = 20 goals / 82 games; 47 points / 82 games
ROR = 19 goals / 82 games; 52 points / 82 games.

But we aren't talking about what they were 5 years ago, we are talking right now and I laid it out very clearly. Right now (and for their whole career), ROR IS SLIGHTLY BETTER OFFENSIVELY THAN STAAL. SORRY. (since you seem to think all caps makes it more right).

Again, you have nothing that backs up your assertion otherwise.

staal a 40 point 2-3 c ror is a selke winning 60 point 1c so yeah slightly better offensively is an huge understatement

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

staal a 40 point 2-3 c ror is a selke winning 60 point 1c so yeah slightly better offensively is an huge understatement

When did O’Reilly win the Selke?

 

[nickdawg95]

When did O’Reilly win the Selke?

lady byng either way guy is a stud

 

[yababy]

What team would sell a 21 year old top-4 D for what he is at that moment?

Uh, I think Carolina would.
They did this with 21 year old Chris Pronger when the franchise was in Hartford

 

[yababy]

RoR is a top 30 centre, staal isn't even a top 60 centre

Ridiculous.
Staal is always top 5 in Selke voting. That alone would put him in the top 20

 

[tucker3434]

Why stop there? For their entire career:
Jordan Staal = 20 goals / 82 games; 47 points / 82 games
ROR = 19 goals / 82 games; 52 points / 82 games.

But we aren't talking about what they were 5 years ago, we are talking right now and I laid it out very clearly. Right now (and for their whole career), ROR IS SLIGHTLY BETTER OFFENSIVELY THAN STAAL. SORRY. (since you seem to think all caps makes it more right).

Again, you have nothing that backs up your assertion otherwise.

10-15 points per season is actually kind of a lot which is what the gap has been recently.

Using career stats for a guy that came into the league at 18 as a second rounder is kind of ridiculous.

 

[yababy]

staal a 40 point 2-3 c ror is a selke winning 60 point 1c so yeah slightly better offensively is an huge understatement

Huh?
ROR never won a Selke.
Staal has higher Selke voting than ROR.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Yeah Buffalo needs to add. Carolina gives up the more valuable asset in terms of position, age, skill, and potential. There needs to be a substantial add, like a blue chip prospect or a great young roster player.

 

[nickdawg95]

Ridiculous.
Staal is always top 5 in Selke voting. That alone would put him in the top 20

hahahahahha you expect people to take you seriously, i can name 30-40 centre rn off top better than staal

 

[Tobias Kahun]

A team that has 4 top 2 dmen though. Some would argue 5.

With a defense that good, how are they not a lock for the playoffs?

 

[TFHockey]

So Sabre fans don't want to make this trade? Do I understand this correctly?
Edmonton is very willing to trade RNH + for Hanifin.

 

[is the answer jesus]

So Sabre fans don't want to make this trade? Do I understand this correctly?
Edmonton is very willing to trade RNH + for Hanifin.

You don't understand this correctly. Sabres fans think something around O'Reilly and Hanifin is reasonable. The majority of Canes do not, and are offering Faulk instead, which shouldn't be accepted by Buffalo due to the lack of term left on Faulk's contract. If they won't accept O'Reilly for Hanifin I don't think you've got a snow balls chance in hell they'd take RNH instead.