Eklund Rumor: Ryan O'Reilly+ for Noah Hanifin

[Cardiac Jerks]

Uh, I think Carolina would.
They did this with 21 year old Chris Pronger when the franchise was in Hartford

Do you really think a 20 year old trade orchestrated by an entirely different management team has any bearing on whether or not they would trade Hanifin now?

Uh, I think not.

If anything it would make them that much more cautious.

 

[yababy]

Do you really think a 20 year old trade orchestrated by an entirely different management team has any bearing on whether or not they would trade Hanifin now?

Uh, I think not.

If anything it would make them that much more cautious.

The question was what team does this. Turns out it's the same organization.
Sorry, I have a long memory

 

[jrgtml67]

Makes sense for Buffalo rebuilding. Does not for Carolina who is rebuilding. By the time Carolina shores up their lack for scoring Ryan will be in his mid 30s..33 34 whatever.

Ek isnt reliable..unless its done. This time of year ive yet to see one he called first

 

[Chan790]

Nugent-Hopkins? No.

Draisaitl? Perhaps

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Carolina's defence is sensational....if they get real goaltending they rocket up the standings...

 

[Hostile Offer]

Makes sense for Buffalo rebuilding. Does not for Carolina who is rebuilding. By the time Carolina shores up their lack for scoring Ryan will be in his mid 30s..33 34 whatever.

Ek isnt reliable..unless its done. This time of year ive yet to see one he called first

You know who might be able to help in that regard? Ryan O'Reilly.

 

[varano]

Carolina's defence is sensational....if they get real goaltending they rocket up the standings...

They're missing a lot of pieces man. All they have is defence. Their top 6 needs a lot of work

 

[Chan790]

You know who might be able to help in that regard? Ryan O'Reilly.

ROR is a waste acquisition for the Canes. Staal takes most of our defensive zone FO and Kruger takes the rest. If we're going to pay what O'Reilly would cost, we'd be better off targeting a more dynamically-offensive player with those assets.

 

[IODCPiper]

Brock nelson, ho sang and a 1st

"lifeisruff, post: 140688169, member: 93072"]http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/eklu...in-hanifin-e4-ny-rangersthus-buzzcast/1/90549

A variation on the Reinhart for Hanifin idea. Buffalo would be able to retain a bunch of money.[/QUOTE]

 

[TFHockey]

Nugent-Hopkins? No.

Draisaitl? Perhaps

Well, Chiarelli stated in a season ticket holder only meeting that there are only two players who are untouchable on the Oilers; McDavid and Draisaitl.
Hanifin is a great young defender (you folks know how to develop and draft them), maybe the best up and coming d-man in the league. Would Chai bite? I dunno.

 

[threeVo]

Makes sense for Buffalo rebuilding. Does not for Carolina who is rebuilding. By the time Carolina shores up their lack for scoring Ryan will be in his mid 30s..33 34 whatever.

Ek isnt reliable..unless its done. This time of year ive yet to see one he called first

ROR is 8 years away from being in his mid 30s lol. Hes only 26, and his contract expires when hes a whopping 30 years old. The guy has been in the NHL since 18

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Makes sense for Buffalo rebuilding. Does not for Carolina who is rebuilding. By the time Carolina shores up their lack for scoring Ryan will be in his mid 30s..33 34 whatever.

Ek isnt reliable..unless its done. This time of year ive yet to see one he called first

Why would Carolina want to wait until Slavin, Pesce, and Hanifan are on UFA contracts to compete?

 

[bleedgreen]

The question was what team does this. Turns out it's the same organization.
Sorry, I have a long memory

I’m a Whaler fan that was there for ALL of that.

This is a bit different though, Hanifin is no threat to be compared to Pronger at this point. Defensively at the same age they’re not even close.

I’m still very hesitant to include Hanifin in any trade though. I do believe Faulk is fair value for RoR and makes sense for the Sabres too. Way more guaranteed mileage for them, similar ages and prices. Faulk may have only two years left but I think he’d be resigned.

As much as I want RoR I don’t think Hanifin is the right move.

 

[jrgtml67]

Not what I meant. What I mean is yoh dont trade your best defenseman or best to be in any circumstance.

For eg with leafs. Everyone keeps saying Nylander or Marner in a big deal. Why? Ya we arent trading a 19yr old who has extremely high elite potential and a 22yr old on pace with Auston Matthews who may well be a 2nd line center next yr or the following. You dont trade your core.

Carolinas core has to incl Noah..id assume. The leafs for eg is #34 #29 #16 #44 #31. I left kadri out because I have a feeling with his value he maybe a piece we move for a top 4 RHD or for another center. Id love it if we could package #42 for either of those but Bozak has had a bad yr..only positive has been his FO%.

 

[Joe McGrath]

With a defense that good, how are they not a lock for the playoffs?

I’d imagine the same way the Sabres aren’t a lock for the playoffs with two #1 centers.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I’d imagine the same way the Sabres aren’t a lock for the playoffs with two #1 centers.

And the Oiler's aren't with 3 1Cs.

 

[Crazydounut]

Francis already said that he isn't moving Hanifin unless he gets a stud top line forward that is similar in age. ROR is a good center and is a low-end 1C, but he isn't worth Hanifin

 

[Tobias Kahun]

And the Oiler's aren't with 3 1Cs.

Oilers have 3 #1 centers?
Find me 1 post from an oiler fan saying such.

 

[Montecristo]

Cane fans not wanting to move Hanifin for OReilly is a reasonable position.

Calling OReilly anything, but a top line center, isn’t.

You think o Reilly is a top 16 center in the league?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Oilers have 3 #1 centers?
Find me 1 post from an oiler fan saying such.

Oilers fans have said McDavid and Draisaitl are 1Cs and over the past few years in RNH for Canes defenseman threads, said that RNH would be as well. It wasn't until he had a bad season last year that people backed off that stance.

Point being, having strength in 1 area of a team doesn't guarantee success so the initial comment was ridiculous.

 

[Joe McGrath]

You think o Reilly is a top 16 center in the league?

You know there are 31 teams in the league, right?

 

[Montecristo]

You know there are 31 teams in the league, right?

And if a player wouldn’t be a top line center on more than half of them, it’s more likely than not he’s a 2nd line center

 

[threeVo]

So if he would be a 1C on 15 teams that would mean he is not a 1C? Math is hard

 

[Montecristo]

So if he would be a 1C on 15 teams that would mean he is not a 1C? Math is hard

It means it’s more likely than not he wouldn’t be a 1c if he’s #16 in the league. Put him on a random team you throw a dart at and it’s more likely he’s a 2C on that team. To me that makes him a 2c valuation around the league. Is krejci a top 30 center in the league? Maybe, but he’s not the 1c for Boston. Is joe Thornton? Maybe but not when Logan couture is around in sj

 

[RodTheBawd]

Oilers fans have said McDavid and Draisaitl are 1Cs and over the past few years in RNH for Canes defenseman threads, said that RNH would be as well. It wasn't until he had a bad season last year that people backed off that stance.

Oh don't worry, they're coming back to that stance this season.