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Diamonddog01
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Yeah, I do think his terrible play this season will change. But what won't change is that he is just not a viable option to solve the secondary scoring issue.
If Horvat (who should be our 3rd line C next year) makes the team, I'm just not sure where to stick this guy. Might be best for a change of scenery and for Gillis to unload him while he's still got some value.
Not a great crop of 2nd line C's this offseason, and not sure who we would be able to get in a trade...
If Horvat (who should be our 3rd line C next year) makes the team, I'm just not sure where to stick this guy. Might be best for a change of scenery and for Gillis to unload him while he's still got some value.
Not a great crop of 2nd line C's this offseason, and not sure who we would be able to get in a trade...
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I know the obligatory Kesler hate is strong, however he had a fairly decent game. Two short-handed opportunities, setup Higgins and Hank on two solid feats that Niemi simply hand and was good defensively. Obviously, we expect more from him as the catalyst to our scoring outside the seconds, but it will come. If by the twenty game mark his offensive struggles persist, we can begin to worry.
If the Rangers and Canucks continue to struggle at the quarter poll, give AV his favourites and continue down the youth movement in Vancouver...
To NY- Kesler, Bieksa
To Van- Stepan, Del Zotto, JT Miller
Very interesting.
Although at this point, you may be selling Kesler at an all-time low value.
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Trade him while his value is still high, I absolutely hate that we might have too, but we could get a kings random for him now.
1st + top end center prospect
1st + top end center prospect
Bourne Endeavor
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Depends what you think of Stepan. Wouldn't be surprised if he's better than Kesler in short order and he's only 23.
I proposed a deal around Stepan/Kesler before the season started.
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I think when the season is over Kesler will have around 25 goals and about 30+ assists while providing good defense. He hasn't played great this season but it is five games.
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Comment was directed towards you at all.
They only come in full force when he's not effective for a stretch.
thepuckmonster
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I'm vaguely worried about Kesler, but the logical part of me knows he'll put it together sooner or later.
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Kesler has had far more disapointing bad seasons than the 2 good ones hes had. Hes SO over rated. If he was wearing a Weise jersey nobody would even notice. Not sure why he constantly gets a free pass. Hes played a great series against nashville a few years ago and been ordinary since. He doesnt even beat people with speed anymore
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Was it him who set up Higgins for that point-blank chance, or Hansen?
Either way, seemed like his line was the only one that could generate much of anything against SJS in the early going.
@Beach. The thing with your formula is that it assumes Daniel-kesler working is a sure thing, which it isn't. We know the Sedins work, we don't know any other combination that do for certain. On paper, sure it looks good, but what's really the best case scenario? We have two good scoring lines and our offense is rolling...then what? The Sedins stay split up the entire season? Eh, don't know about that. So then at some point down the road Torts is going to re-unite the twins as a slump buster, are we back to square 1 with Kesler?
No, imo I think its better to be trying to find Kesler a ling term role in Torts ssystem, and find linemates that fit that role. I'm fine with splitting the Sedins up for a period here and there, but nothing longer term (also like to see Kesler riding shotgun with the Sedins a couple shifts per game). Shuffling the line ups as you've proposed threatens our immediate success by splitting up our best line, but also offers no potential long term solution unless you are willing to make it a permanant change.
As we get guys back into the line up I'd expect we will see kes play with a few winger combos, but Daniel time will be limited. Best thing about getting kassian back, it frees up santorelli to get kesler going.
No, imo I think its better to be trying to find Kesler a ling term role in Torts ssystem, and find linemates that fit that role. I'm fine with splitting the Sedins up for a period here and there, but nothing longer term (also like to see Kesler riding shotgun with the Sedins a couple shifts per game). Shuffling the line ups as you've proposed threatens our immediate success by splitting up our best line, but also offers no potential long term solution unless you are willing to make it a permanant change.
As we get guys back into the line up I'd expect we will see kes play with a few winger combos, but Daniel time will be limited. Best thing about getting kassian back, it frees up santorelli to get kesler going.
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Comment was directed towards you at all.
They only come in full force when he's not effective for a stretch.
I think I'm rather consistent
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@Beach. The thing with your formula is that it assumes Daniel-kesler working is a sure thing, which it isn't. We know the Sedins work, we don't know any other combination that do for certain. On paper, sure it looks good, but what's really the best case scenario? We have two good scoring lines and our offense is rolling...then what? The Sedins stay split up the entire season? Eh, don't know about that. So then at some point down the road Torts is going to re-unite the twins as a slump buster, are we back to square 1 with Kesler?
No, imo I think its better to be trying to find Kesler a ling term role in Torts ssystem, and find linemates that fit that role. I'm fine with splitting the Sedins up for a period here and there, but nothing longer term (also like to see Kesler riding shotgun with the Sedins a couple shifts per game). Shuffling the line ups as you've proposed threatens our immediate success by splitting up our best line, but also offers no potential long term solution unless you are willing to make it a permanant change.
As we get guys back into the line up I'd expect we will see kes play with a few winger combos, but Daniel time will be limited. Best thing about getting kassian back, it frees up santorelli to get kesler going.
I don't think you'll have to worry about it if the offense is rolling. It's a good problem to have IMO. Much rather worry about that than us still trying to find "chemistry" down the stretch. It also assumes that they'll be scoring all season long, of which there's no guarantee.
At worst it'll be a backup plan for the playoffs because you only have 4 losses max and the stakes are so much higher. Even AV at least switched up Burrows with Samuelsson whenever they struggled.
Not a fan of Del Zotto, but that would have been a great trade for us assuming we will never get our Kesler back.
It won't happen though. Not even sure if NYR would give up Stepan for Kesler and Bieksa (due to the age of Bieksa and uncertainty around Kesler).
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