Proposal: Rumours & Proposals Thread | Free Agency Fallout

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

He said playoffs were the goal for 19/20 and was clear about it.

This is the same roster as last year. End of story.

He hasn't done the job he was hired to do as of yet.

He has always said “compete for the playoffs in 19-20”.

Summer ain’t over.

 

[McFlash97]

I'm no mathematician, but something's not adding up here.

lets see:

22/23 + 4 years for draftee to make an impact = 26/27

next years draft

23/24 + 4 years for draftee to make an impact= 27/28

when drafted players make significant impacts

age: 28/29.

McDavids prime years in the Toilet and contract about to expire.

Hello LA/Toronto/New York !

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Stauffer has pumped Maroon a few times last week. I'm scared.

Scared even if he comes back cheap?

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

So when does the process start? The draft is gone and so are the bulk of UFAs. Not even the most optimistic Oiler fan can possibly think this is a playoff team without significant improvement even in 2020/21.

It has already started. If you wanted a splashy UFA signing or flashy trade you did not pay much attention to Holland’s pressers and interviews the last 2 months.

 

[edmoil3]

Holland is headin to the lake lot.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

lets see:

22/23 + 4 years for draftee to make an impact = 26/27

next years draft

23/24 + 4 years for draftee to make an impact= 27/28

when drafted players make significant impacts

age: 28/29.

McDavids prime years in the Toilet and contract about to expire.

Hello LA/Toronto/New York !

This is the most narrow minded view one can take but whatever.

 

[McFlash97]

Scared even if he comes back cheap?

30 pounds heavier, Stanley cup hangover, even slower, and we still have Lucic.

that's just a terrible set of possibilities in one.

 

[McFlyingV]

lets see:

22/23 + 4 years for draftee to make an impact = 26/27

next years draft

23/24 + 4 years for draftee to make an impact= 27/28

when drafted players make significant impacts

age: 28/29.

McDavids prime years in the Toilet and contract about to expire.

Hello LA/Toronto/New York !

Did all of our current prospects die?

 

[Heavy Dee]

He has always said “compete for the playoffs in 19-20”.

Summer ain’t over.

Same thing bud... Playoffs is the goal...

 

[Soundwave]

Don’t disagree. But we have a new sheriff in town and a new coach. Prospects are coming. And McDavid ain’t a sniveling whining quitter. I sincerely believe he wants to get this done here.

If you believe he has an expiry date good for you.

I believe he sees his contract out no matter what.

"New sherrif in town" as some kind of marketing tool losts its luster about 4 years ago. No one gives a shit about a new GM, new coach song & dance. Get actual results and then you can talk about that.

The Oilers prospect pool is overrated, there's no forward in the system that looks like they can impact an actual NHL game in a big way coming at all from the looks of it any time soon.

D depth there is fine but really, I mean Broberg is what? Maybe Oscar Klefbom ... who we already have? Having him be what Klefbom is now in 5 years from now... ok, I mean yeah, great, good, but like I'm not gonna do cartwheels over that exactly.

It's easy for you to sit there and say "hey Connor just wait 5 years" ... you have no real skin in the game. You didn't work to be the best in the world at a sport every day of your life since you were 8 years old. You haven't been told you are the next Sidney Crosby for the last 10 years of your life. You don't have that burning type of competetive drive most likely.

You can't say with an assurance that he's just A-OK with being on the worst franchise in pro sports and flushing years of his prime that he will never get back down the tubes.

It's easy to say that behind a keyboard. It's a different thing for him when he has to live that disappointment day in, day out, year in, year out. OK?

 

[McFlyingV]

Years tend to get lost in Edmonton.

Hey no argument here

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It has already started. If you wanted a splashy UFA signing or flashy trade you did not pay much attention to Holland’s pressers and interviews the last 2 months.

So where and more importantly, when is the help coming? I don’t pay attention to talk, I pay attention to action. And so far other than hiring a retread coach there hasn’t been much of that.

I’m not asking for miracles, I’m asking for one top six winger to begin with. I keep getting told they are easy to acquire.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Fire up the ol oilerz legacy wood chipper.

 

[McFlash97]

This is the most narrow minded view one can take but whatever.

lol ? what ?


so you Don't see the far sighted view I just relayed so it becomes narrow minded because you don't agree with me ?

lol


classic

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Did all of our current prospects die?

Not to mention Holland is on record stating he will be a player in the UFA game. Just not this year.

 

[ZzZz]

As for McDavid he is building a multi million dollar place here. I doubt he’d invest that coin and leave in a year. He wants stability and upward trend.
.

He could always sell it

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Same thing bud... Playoffs is the goal...

It is for 31 teams. He’s realistic that we want to compete this year. After that he has said be a perennial playoff team competing for cups.

Different things.

 

[Skolman]

Trade for Gusev, sign Dzingel. Start summer vacation.

Gusev-McDavid-Draisaitl
Dzingel-RNH-_______

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

He could always sell it

Yeah ...after one year. Great use of money there.

 

[Jamin]

The future doesn't matter if Connor McDavid gets fed up with this and zones out.

And you can't just hit a button and say "OK now we're ready to compete" and think automatically you're gifted a playoff spot because now you're "trying". It may not work like that and you may find that on top of wasting previous years, now not everything is going right for you in your "compete now!!!!" season.

Add to that years of losing mentally wears down players, culture suffers, not trying 100% becomes the norm. Veterans check out. Prospects hit the wall and stagnate.

Its like we have seen this on a loop for 13/14 years yet people still keep preaching patience and resorting to straw man arguments

 

[Soundwave]

Stauffer has pumped Maroon a few times last week. I'm scared.

At this point they may as well. Holland doesn't want to give term, and who then is really willing to take a 1 year deal. At least it might cheer up McDavid a bit and put another 12-15 goals into your top six.

Sign Maroon and call it a summer I'd say. Keep the rest of your cap open maybe for a mid-season upgrade. They're obviously not that serious about playoffs next year anyway.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

lol ? what ?


so you Don't see the far sighted view I just relayed so it becomes narrow minded because you don't agree with me ?

lol


classic

You make no room for our current prospects maturing, future additions via trade and free agency.

Narrow minded tunnel vision to fit your narrative.

 

[McFlash97]

Did all of our current prospects die?

Samorukov is Nurse in 6 years

Nurse gets dealth

Bouchard gets schultzed




im just saying. If you stick with how it usually works in Edmonton


Puljujarvi is a star somewhere else

Yamamoto ... is playing in Europe

theres all your solid prospects

Lavoie sticks around 20 goal man

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

"New sherrif in town" as some kind of marketing tool losts its luster about 4 years ago. No one gives a **** about a new GM, new coach song & dance. Get actual results and then you can talk about that.

The Oilers prospect pool is overrated, there's no forward in the system that looks like they can impact an actual NHL game in a big way coming at all from the looks of it any time soon.

D depth there is fine but really, I mean Broberg is what? Maybe Oscar Klefbom ... who we already have? Having him be what Klefbom is now in 5 years from now... ok, I mean yeah, great, good, but like I'm not gonna do cartwheels over that exactly.

It's easy for you to sit there and say "hey Connor just wait 5 years" ... you have no real skin in the game. You didn't work to be the best in the world at a sport every day of your life since you were 8 years old. You haven't been told you are the next Sidney Crosby for the last 10 years of your life. You don't have that burning type of competetive drive most likely.

You can't say with an assurance that he's just A-OK with being on the worst franchise in pro sports and flushing years of his prime that he will never get back down the tubes.

It's easy to say that behind a keyboard. It's a different thing for him when he has to live that disappointment day in, day out, year in, year out. OK?

He is not a quitter. We show progress - he plays out his contract. That is my belief. You can believe whatever you want.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Did all of our current prospects die?

The Oilers are a prospect graveyard.