Proposal: Rumours & Proposals Thread | Free Agency Fallout

[Soundwave]

He is not a quitter. We show progress - he plays out his contract. That is my belief. You can believe whatever you want.

There's a middle ground between "quitting" and "not flushing your prime years down the toilet".

That middle ground is probably 2 more years of this shit max. He's not an idiot and he doesn't owe his career to the Oilers just because of some completely random ping pong balls bounced one way instead of another.

 

[Jamin]

Yes he should be fired. It’s perfectly plausible to fire him after 2 months on the job

Wrong thread

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

He is not a quitter. We show progress - he plays out his contract. That is my belief. You can believe whatever you want.

Call me skeptical but there likely won’t be any progress this year without a better roster. And that defense stinks so bad a skunk would be offended.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

So where and more importantly, when is the help coming? I don’t pay attention to talk, I pay attention to action. And so far other than hiring a retread coach there hasn’t been much of that.

I’m not asking for miracles, I’m asking for one top six winger to begin with. I keep getting told they are easy to acquire.

Summer ain’t over yet. Plus retread coach is going to get far more out of what we have than the last 2 “retreads” and probably far more than a shiny new rookie coach.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Call me skeptical but there likely won’t be any progress this year without a better roster. And that defense stinks so bad a skunk would be offended.

You, sceptical? Nooooooo.....

 

[ZzZz]

Yeah ...after one year. Great use of money there.

He's got lots, and he might make all of it back

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

There's a middle ground between "quitting" and "not flushing your prime years down the toilet".

That middle ground is probably 2 more years of this **** max. He's not an idiot and he doesn't owe his career to the Oilers just because of some completely random ping pong balls bounced one way instead of another.

I don’t profess to know his inner thoughts and I highly doubt you do either. So you choose to believe what you want and so will I.

Either way I said - which you keep ignoring - if we show progress I believe he plays out his contract.

 

[OilerTyler]

Summer ain’t over yet. Plus retread coach is going to get far more out of what we have than the last 2 “retreads” and probably far more than a shiny new rookie coach.

The summer is almost over. Teams will be shutting down soon and won’t start making moves again until training camp. The easiest time of year to improve your team is the draft through July 1. We didn’t do that.

Here are all of the players the Oilers have acquired between July 2 and the start of the season over the last five years. It’s a bunch of junk.

2018:
Alex Chiasson
Josh Currie
Jakub Jerabek
Jason Garrison

2017:
Brad Malone
Jussi Jokinen
Yohann Auvitu

2016:
Taylor Beck
Kris Russell
Zachary Pochiro
Eric Gryba

2015:
Anders Nilsson

2014:
Richard Bachman

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

He's got lots, and he might make all of it back

Sure, millionaires don’t mind flushing tens of thousands of dollars down the toilet.

 

[Heavy Dee]

It is for 31 teams. He’s realistic that we want to compete this year. After that he has said be a perennial playoff team competing for cups.

Different things.

Did we not 'compete' for the playoffs last year? Like every other team?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Summer ain’t over yet. Plus retread coach is going to get far more out of what we have than the last 2 “retreads” and probably far more than a shiny new rookie coach.

Summer basically ends the first week of July. After that teams shut down until training camp.

And Tippett hasn’t been all that successful even on teams better than this one.

 

[edmoil3]

The summer is almost over. Teams will be shutting down soon and won’t start making moves again until training camp. The easiest time of year to improve your team is the draft through July 1. We didn’t do that.

Here are all of the players the Oilers have acquired between July 2 and the start of the season over the last five years. It’s a bunch of junk.

2018:
Alex Chiasson
Josh Currie
Jakub Jerabek
Jason Garrison

2017:
Brad Malone
Jussi Jokinen
Yohann Auvitu

2016:
Taylor Beck
Kris Russell
Zachary Pochiro
Eric Gryba

2015:
Anders Nilsson

2014:
Richard Bachman

These moves are “sexy” but we got some competition at the bottom of the roster. Lol every July 2nd

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

The summer is almost over. Teams will be shutting down soon and won’t start making moves again until training camp. The easiest time of year to improve your team is the draft through July 1. We didn’t do that.

Here are all of the players the Oilers have acquired between July 2 and the start of the season over the last five years. It’s a bunch of junk.

2018:
Alex Chiasson
Josh Currie
Jakub Jerabek
Jason Garrison

2017:
Brad Malone
Jussi Jokinen
Yohann Auvitu

2016:
Taylor Beck
Kris Russell
Zachary Pochiro
Eric Gryba

2015:
Anders Nilsson

2014:
Richard Bachman

The difference between this summer and any other in the history of the game is the plethora of unsigned RFAs that will necessitate cap money to still be moved while contracts shift from big money 3rd deals to big money 2nd deals.

There will be good trading opportunity ahead.

 

[North]

I think it's implying Gretzky is the drinker, and if his red nose, face, neck and every other part of his being tells you - he's a drinker.

He had another post during the draft implying Holland was drunk when he made the first pick.

He thinks he’s being funny. He’s not.

 

[McFlyingV]

Samorukov is Nurse in 6 years

Nurse gets dealth

Bouchard gets schultzed




im just saying. If you stick with how it usually works in Edmonton


Puljujarvi is a star somewhere else

Yamamoto ... is playing in Europe

theres all your solid prospects

Lavoie sticks around 20 goal man

Samorukov will be 26 in 6 years thats an interesting take on how long you expect his development to take.

And that's it? Did we forget Broberg, Benson, Jones, McLeod, Marody, Maksimov, and Lagesson exist? I guess if thats the outlook you like to take then carry on.

 

[joestevens29]

Really surprised Maroon didn't sign July 1st.

Is STL just messing with him as they know he really wants to play there?

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Summer basically ends the first week of July. After that teams shut down until training camp.

And Tippett hasn’t been all that successful even on teams better than this one.

Bullshit. Tippett took a much less talented Arizona team to the playoffs 3 or 4 times in a row and just missed the in 2 other years.

Read my other posts with respect to RFAs on other teams and cap space.

 

[North]

Really surprised Maroon didn't sign July 1st.

Is STL just messing with him as they know he really wants to play there?

According to reports Maroon is moving on.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Did we not 'compete' for the playoffs last year? Like every other team?

Rhetorically yes. Holland is referring to Realistically.

 

[Aceboogie]

Islanders got significantly worse on paper and some how improved a ton.

PDO is a hell of a drug. Id love to ride a PDO bender next year. PDO can make the worst of teams make the playoffs

The key thing is to not make inferences from a PDO filled season. You enjoy it, but you better know full well your team is crashing down to earth next year

 

[McFlyingV]

The Oilers are a prospect graveyard.

Sure, when they threw them to the wolves, or simply just made horrible selections. I have a feeling this next crop just might have some actual insulation with McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge, Klefbom, Nurse, and Larsson on the roster. I'm not even going to try to convince you though, I know how this song and dance goes with you.

 

[joestevens29]

According to reports Maroon is moving on.

Didn't hear that. Even more surprised then as you'd think he'd want to sign a deal instead of lingering around for 10 days like last year.

 

[Soundwave]

I don’t profess to know his inner thoughts and I highly doubt you do either. So you choose to believe what you want and so will I.

Either way I said - which you keep ignoring - if we show progress I believe he plays out his contract.

You can believe what you want.

There were plenty of folkes here who were believing this team would "bounce back" last year and Lucic and several others would bounce back too. That Chiarelli had a plan too.

Chanting "drafting is key!" now as if you've uncovered some magical epiphany (instead of something every other GM is well aware of, on top of having to trade well and do other things well) is the standard Oiler operating procedure.

After a GM/coach is flushed they'll yell from the rooftops that they've now "seen the light!" ... no one gives a f***. Get results on the ice against actual NHL teams in an actual season (sorry not pre-season there Rattie and Yamamoto boosters) and then the Oilers can talk.

 

[Frank the Tank]

Every day Johansson, Ferland, and Dzingel don't sign is a better day for the Oilers.

Outside of de Haan, not many UFA signed long-term, big money deals after July 2 last summer. They may be forced to go the Maroon short-term deal route, which favors the Oilers plans.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Bull****. Tippett took a much less talented Arizona team to the playoffs 3 or 4 times in a row and just missed the in 2 other years.

Read my other posts with respect to RFAs on other teams and cap space.

And outside of one year they were perennial first round failures. If only we had gotten 2012 Mike Smith instead of 2019. Our goaltending and defense are some of the worst in the league, something that even noted defensive guru Hitchcock couldn’t fix.