Mr Positive
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Barrie is also going to be expensive.OEL is going to be expensive. Can we all go back to talking about Larsson for 15th pick and sign Barrie?
I think a good chunk of that roster will elevate once out of there. To what degree who knows.OEL would elevate his game here. If he's available we should try
I agree. If he was a RHD I'd be more interested. But I can't see the team trading Nurse. So unless it was in a deal involving Klefbom, things get crowded on the left side very quickly.I think OEL is gone, they will look at stocking up on futures and saving money.
Everyone over 25 actually.the ARI fans on the mains want to move anyone over 30.
I wonder what we could pry out of them for, say, 14 and Russell.
Nothing worse than a crowded thong lolI agree. If he was a RHD I'd be more interested. But I can't see the team trading Nurse. So unless it was in a deal involving Klefbom, thongs get crowded on the left side very quickly.
I am not suggesting that all of these moves would or should be made. It is really a hypothetical exercise to show that with some planning even bold moves are possible fo a cap perspective.
Like you I have a higher opinion of Larsson than most here. I'd be perfectly comfortable keeping him in the slot I had for Barrie. The rational here is that if they believed that they would be moving on from Larsson there are options to replace him in the short term and get something that can help longer term instead of just letting him walk. Yzerman did a masterful job of the in TB for several years.
Neal has no variance in his deal so the buyout is $1.91M with a cap savings $3.83M. But there are alternatives to a buyout. A trade with retention of $2M costs a bit more on the cap in the first three years but saves the last three. Neal at $3.75M for three years is not that big of a problem to sell with a bit of sweetener. He has scored 20+ goals pretty much every year of his career and guys that do that are going to cost at least $3M. That said I would not buy him out this year unless they needed the space for someone who can impact the roster.
The problem with absorbing OEL's isn't the cap this season, it's his cap moving forward. The Oilers will have numerous players who require raises in the near future and there's limited wiggle room already without an $8m defenseman on the payroll.Everyone over 25 actually.
I think OEL would rebound tremendously under Tippett in any situation. I think Edmonton is actually an ideal situation, regardless of Tippett. I think the combination of Tippett and the talent and competition in Edmonton would see OEL going right back to being top 10 in Norris voting again. I’d be more surprised if he didn’t have a resurgence of that caliber.
Anyway, I think it’s clear Arizona has to trade anyone over 25 they can for “futures” and “cap-dumps”. There’s just nothing else we can do.
How about replacing Kris Russell and Alex Chiasson with OEL and Christian Fischer? Arizona would want futures. One of Bouchard or Broberg (your choice) and that 1st round pick?
OEL would elevate his game here. If he's available we should try
Everyone over 25 actually.
I think OEL would rebound tremendously under Tippett in any situation. I think Edmonton is actually an ideal situation, regardless of Tippett. I think the combination of Tippett and the talent and competition in Edmonton would see OEL going right back to being top 10 in Norris voting again. I’d be more surprised if he didn’t have a resurgence of that caliber.
Anyway, I think it’s clear Arizona has to trade anyone over 25 they can for “futures” and “cap-dumps”. There’s just nothing else we can do.
How about replacing Kris Russell and Alex Chiasson with OEL and Christian Fischer? Arizona would want futures. One of Bouchard or Broberg (your choice) and that 1st round pick?
I’d take a 2nd for Raanta.Not the worst, but I really don't like the idea of giving up 2 high end (and cheap) young talents for a 30 year old defenceman who's main sales pitch invovles the phrase"he should rebound".
Plus if the Oil target bringing in OEL, another of the higher priced defenceman (Klef, Nurse, Larsson) would need to be moved too.
If you're looking at the Oilers and OEL. I think the deal would be Klef+ or Nurse+ (a modest plus, but not a blue chipper) for OEL, though I'm not sure if that would be overly appealing from a ARI pov.
Though what do you suppose the going rate on Raanta will be?
I’d take a 2nd for Raanta.
No doubt!Nothing worse than a crowded thong lol
Everyone over 25 actually.
I think OEL would rebound tremendously under Tippett in any situation. I think Edmonton is actually an ideal situation, regardless of Tippett. I think the combination of Tippett and the talent and competition in Edmonton would see OEL going right back to being top 10 in Norris voting again. I’d be more surprised if he didn’t have a resurgence of that caliber.
Anyway, I think it’s clear Arizona has to trade anyone over 25 they can for “futures” and “cap-dumps”. There’s just nothing else we can do.
How about replacing Kris Russell and Alex Chiasson with OEL and Christian Fischer? Arizona would want futures. One of Bouchard or Broberg (your choice) and that 1st round pick?
Why not give us the first for Kuemper the. He’s probably a top 3 goalie in the world. He’s in his prime and he’s cheap. I’d still be willing to accept Russell and Chiasson as sumps to make it work.Sadly the Oil are running short on those
I admit, he's a guy I'd love to have in a tandem with Kosko, but I don't see the fit with both team looking to dump cap.
Throw in Crouse and you have a deal.Why not give us the first for Kuemper the. He’s probably a top 3 goalie in the world. He’s in his prime and he’s cheap. I’d still be willing to accept Russell and Chiasson as sumps to make it work.
That's an interesting suggestion.Why not give us the first for Kuemper the. He’s probably a top 3 goalie in the world. He’s in his prime and he’s cheap. I’d still be willing to accept Russell and Chiasson as sumps to make it work.
Why not give us the first for Kuemper the. He’s probably a top 3 goalie in the world. He’s in his prime and he’s cheap. I’d still be willing to accept Russell and Chiasson as sumps to make it work.
Everyone over 25 actually.
I think OEL would rebound tremendously under Tippett in any situation. I think Edmonton is actually an ideal situation, regardless of Tippett. I think the combination of Tippett and the talent and competition in Edmonton would see OEL going right back to being top 10 in Norris voting again. I’d be more surprised if he didn’t have a resurgence of that caliber.
Anyway, I think it’s clear Arizona has to trade anyone over 25 they can for “futures” and “cap-dumps”. There’s just nothing else we can do.
How about replacing Kris Russell and Alex Chiasson with OEL and Christian Fischer? Arizona would want futures. One of Bouchard or Broberg (your choice) and that 1st round pick?
Not the worst, but I really don't like the idea of giving up 2 high end (and cheap) young talents for a soon-to-be 30 year old defenceman who's main sales pitch involves the phrase"he should rebound".
Plus if the Oil target bringing in OEL, another of the higher priced defenceman (Klef, Nurse, Larsson) would need to be moved too.
If you're looking at the Oilers and OEL. I think the deal would be Klef+ or Nurse+ (a modest plus, but not a blue chipper) for OEL, though I'm not sure if that would be overly appealing from a ARI pov.
Though what do you suppose the going rate on Raanta will be?
Yes.We'll take Kuemper while you get Neal and a first?
Good?
I didn’t edit fast enough. Lol.I would take Kuemper for Neal + 14 AND RUN
okay, include Klefbom in a trade for OEL then. Solves thatI agree. If he was a RHD I'd be more interested. But I can't see the team trading Nurse. So unless it was in a deal involving Klefbom, things get crowded on the left side very quickly.
I didn’t edit fast enough. Lol.