Rumor: Rumors/Speculation/Trade Talk - 2021-22 Pt. IV - Free Agent Frenzy

[steveat]

At this point Raty > MDC is a very lukewarm, room temperature take.

The difference is that Raety has Bailey hands (remember Lee is not a great skater either)....His problem is mostly mental and only from when Covid started. In his draft year, he was only given 10 min a game...not enough to do much. This kid is really good or he wouldn't even be in the conversation for 1st overall before. He put WAY too much pressure on himself and his problem areas can easily be fixed. They aren't fundamental problems...except maybe improving his skating. Lets see how he does first before coming to a conclusion.

 

[islescoop]

Sounds like several teams in the goalie market. Any chance you see us trading Varly, promoting Sorokin and picking up a cheap goalie #2 to free up additional cap space? I know, cap space only good if you can use it.

 

[Stercrazy]

Sounds like several teams in the goalie market. Any chance you see us trading Varly, promoting Sorokin and picking up a cheap goalie #2 to free up additional cap space? I know, cap space only good if you can use it.

It would have to be a really good return for the Isles to trade Varly.

 

[steveat]

There we go

Apparently, just because a team does not give a QO to a player...it doesn't mean that the team won't sign him. It just means that the QO isn't worth it. I think his QO is too high and if he wants to stay, he will need to sign for League Min.

The MORE surprising thing here is that H0-Sang's name isn't on there....anywhere, so wtf is going on with his status?

 

[doublechili]

Apparently, just because a team does not give a QO to a player...it doesn't mean that the team won't sign him. It just means that the QO isn't worth it. I think his QO is too high and if he wants to stay, he will need to sign for League Min.

That's a possibility, but MDC made only $700k last year so what would his QO have been, and what's league minimum? I'm wondering what the savings would be if they did that.

 

[Strummergas]

That's a possibility, but MDC made only $700k last year so what would his QO have been, and what's league minimum? I'm wondering what the savings would be if they did that.

Could involve not wanting to give him a one-way deal as well.

 

[SCMURRAY]

Apparently, just because a team does not give a QO to a player...it doesn't mean that the team won't sign him. It just means that the QO isn't worth it. I think his QO is too high and if he wants to stay, he will need to sign for League Min.

The MORE surprising thing here is that H0-Sang's name isn't on there....anywhere, so wtf is going on with his status?

Ho-sang is a group6 UFA since turning 25. Only need a QO for your RFAs

 

[Islesfan22]

Apparently, just because a team does not give a QO to a player...it doesn't mean that the team won't sign him. It just means that the QO isn't worth it. I think his QO is too high and if he wants to stay, he will need to sign for League Min.

The MORE surprising thing here is that H0-Sang's name isn't on there....anywhere, so wtf is going on with his status?

Ho sang is a UFA. His islanders career is over.

 

[doublechili]

Ho sang is a UFA. His islanders career is over.

He's just been held back here. Now maybe he can follow the usual path and go to TOR where he can finally flourish on a good team.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

He's just been held back here. Now maybe he can follow the usual path and go to TOR where he can finally flourish on a good team.

Just give him a chance! One chance!

 

[Okposofan21]

Sounds like several teams in the goalie market. Any chance you see us trading Varly, promoting Sorokin and picking up a cheap goalie #2 to free up additional cap space? I know, cap space only good if you can use it.

Plenty of goalies are on the market as well. A team is most likely not going to trade for a goalie if they can just sign one off of the market. Also - Varlamov's worth to the North American develpment is important to Sorokin imo. I believe that Sorokin lived with Varlomov and his family this past year. I would not change a thing for the next two years (when Varlamov's contract expires) and then hopefully Sorokin will be ready to take over as a legitit number one goalie.

 

[Costigan77]

Just give him a chance! One chance!

He deserves it. He has worked hard. Definitely never failed any internal “testing” either...when he was asked by management to stop during the season....or fishbowled the supply closet at B-Port and was considered and influence in that regard on other prospects

 

[LBloor]

Just give him a chance! One chance!

I hope this is sarcasm, HO Sang has been a cancer since his minor hockey days in the GTHL

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

I hope this is sarcasm, HO Sang has been a cancer since his minor hockey days in the GTHL

It very much is. I am poking fun at the select few who were still asking why he was not given a chance as recent as March/April when the offense was sputtering.

Welcome aboard.

 

[LBloor]

It very much is. I am poking fun at the select few who were still asking why he was not given a chance as recent as March/April when the offense was sputtering.

Welcome aboard.

Thank you, fan since 78 when the leafs eliminated them from the playoffs. Just figuring out this chat stuff, yes im old as dirt lol.

 

[Tres Peleches]

Ho-sang is a group6 UFA since turning 25. Only need a QO for your RFAs

MTL should sign him, they clearly have no qualms dealing with jackasses

*just for clarity’s sake, what their pick did was infinitely worse than anything Ho-Sang has done. Point is you can’t proclaim you won’t give a guy a shot due to “character issues” when you actively pick someone like that

 

[Islesfan22]

I hope this is sarcasm, HO Sang has been a cancer since his minor hockey days in the GTHL

It’s sarcasm Ho sang had multiple chances with the islanders. Has only himself to blame but he will probably still blame everyone else for his failures.

 

[TeamKidd]

 

[saintunspecified]

MTL should sign him, they clearly have no qualms dealing with jackasses

Ho-Sang may be a goofball who doesn't have what it takes to be a NHL player, but that is not in any way comparable to what the kid the Canadiens picked did.

 

[Metnut]

Plenty of goalies are on the market as well. A team is most likely not going to trade for a goalie if they can just sign one off of the market. Also - Varlamov's worth to the North American develpment is important to Sorokin imo. I believe that Sorokin lived with Varlomov and his family this past year. I would not change a thing for the next two years (when Varlamov's contract expires) and then hopefully Sorokin will be ready to take over as a legitit number one goalie.

Sorokin is already 25 years old and won a playoff series for us. Don’t think he needs to wait until he’s 27-28 to be a #1 goalie. Especially since we’ll need to be paying him in the meantime.

IMO, I’d rather run with Sorokin and use the Varlamov space (and take the return we get for him) to try and improve the rest of the roster.

 

[NC 1972]

Why, spend assets when tomorrow he’s free.

 

[BMOK33]

I don’t think MDC is good enough to get another gig in the NHL. It wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up in Switzerland, one of the non-Russian KHL teams or Sweden.

Yeah very possible. He was lucky at times he was even getting into the games he got in here

 

[Macch]

Schmidt has one of the uglier contracts in the NHL

Don't think Lou made all this cap space only to bring in another bad contract.

 

[SI90]

Why, spend assets when tomorrow he’s free.

he’s not. He has 4 years left on his deal at basically $6mil AAV. That’s more than Leddy and I don’t think he’s as good as Leddy.

I’d rather $4milAAV X 4 years for Suter than Schmidt’s current contract.

even if VAN was willing to eat salary I don’t know about the fit and what it would cost us.

I’d prefer to honestly sign Zadorov to a price it contract

 

[Tres Peleches]

Ho-Sang may be a goofball who doesn't have what it takes to be a NHL player, but that is not in any way comparable to what the kid the Canadiens picked did.

That’s my point. If they’re willing to put up with what that douche did, Ho-Sang is a saint compared to him

Re-reading my post, I could have made that more clear