Speculation: Rumors, Speculation, and Armchair GM talk - XV

[Anglesmith]

It's going to be Edmonton. Makes too much sense, and they are way more able to pull off something like this. Unless, of course, the Isles want a defenceman specifically. If so, I think it'll be Vancouver.

 

[Calculon]

Hamonic would be a terrific addition. But if the Islanders are only interested in a replacement, then I can only see them wanting Brodie, Hamilton and maybe Giordano. And unless it's Giordano going the other way, it doesn't make sense.

If they try for a bigger deal and look for maybe a lesser defenseman but a better forward, that would unfortunately leave Edmonton in a better position to make a deal since they can dangle Eberle as a possible Okposo replacement. Or Draisaitl, whose one ELC could be very appealing.

Wishful, but it would certainly be nice though if Hamonic preferred Calgary above all else, and Snow falls in love with Russell and Hudler. One can dream.

 

[Taranis]

Eberle for Hamonic makes a lot of sense.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Hamonic doesn't have a NTC or a NMC. Isle are just being classy with it...

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Eberle for Hamonic makes a lot of sense.

Except they want a D back by the sounds of things.

 

[Dertell]

This might be a trap. If so, I hope Treliving doesn't fall in it.

 

[Bounces R Way]

It's going to be Edmonton. Makes too much sense, and they are way more able to pull off something like this. Unless, of course, the Isles want a defenceman specifically. If so, I think it'll be Vancouver.

Agreed. If the rumors are true Chia would look pretty bad if he can't pull off a deal with the amount of assets that organization has. Would hesitate on moving Gio though, guy was heart and soul for the Flames before he went down last year and the Flames rewarded that with a big contract. Knee jerk moves can really bite a team in the ass. Would absolutely entertain Russell/Wideman + picks or prospects(not the 1st plz!).

 

[HighLifeMan]

Giordano + Hudler for Hamonic + Okposo

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Yeah I would be okay with trying to swing a major deal here. Unlikely I know.

Russell/Wideman+Hudler @50%+2nd+Prospect

Probably dreaming but still.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Giordano has to go the other unless we want to move Brodie or Hamilton.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

Treliving has been look to make a deal... Now might be a great time..

 

[Dertell]

Giordano has to go the other unless we want to move Brodie or Hamilton.

We can always hang up the phone.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

We can always hang up the phone.

True, but a player like Hamonic rarely becomes available. It's hard to pass up.

 

[Fig]

Yeah I would be okay with trying to swing a major deal here. Unlikely I know.

Russell/Wideman+Hudler @50%+2nd+Prospect

Probably dreaming but still.

Would something revolving around a package of Russell AND Wideman salary retained to 4M to the end of his contract plus prospects/picks be enough? As painful as it may be, I'd even consider tossing in one of Andersson or Kylington into the mix. I know we drafted them with second round picks, but they feel almost like early second late first level prospects to me for some odd reason.

Idea wise to have a Russell and Wideman retained as "current" replacement play for Hamonic, Andersson/Kylington for future replacement? Enough value or have to add?

 

[Fig]

Eberle for Hamonic makes a lot of sense.

I don't see this being the case if Snow wants some type of "equal" replacement of Hamonic to the team and the rumor says no picks and prospects. IMO, Winnipeg makes more sense. The trade between the Jets and Isles would be uncomfortable for both teams, but they could get the closest to the right value/type of player trade going IMO. Plus I think Hamonic is from MB, so it works best for him there?

I personally think WPG is the best fit location for Hamonic and pieces to move. Though the other teams should be able to put together something competitive especially Edmonton.

EDM trade I'd venture a guess around Klefblom and Eberle+?

 

[Isles5513]

Hamonic would be a terrific addition. But if the Islanders are only interested in a replacement, then I can only see them wanting Brodie, Hamilton and maybe Giordano. And unless it's Giordano going the other way, it doesn't make sense.

If they try for a bigger deal and look for maybe a lesser defenseman but a better forward, that would unfortunately leave Edmonton in a better position to make a deal since they can dangle Eberle as a possible Okposo replacement. Or Draisaitl, whose one ELC could be very appealing.

Wishful, but it would certainly be nice though if Hamonic preferred Calgary above all else, and Snow falls in love with Russell and Hudler. One can dream.

We've got plenty of forward prospects, such as Barzal and Beauvillier who are lighting their leagues, Dal Colle who's turning it on now, and Ho-Sang who is a wild card, plus they have no where to put him if Strome regains last years form. They're not breaking up the 4th line.They will want a capable Dman who could play this year. Theodore Jameison Brodie, I'm looking at you. We also have some solid prospects who could soften the blow.

 

[Volica]

Hamonic's on a great contract, he's 25, and a top Dman. RHD too, to slide him along Brodie for the top-pairing.

Calgary has to make this deal. It's not often that top young players become available. If you folks haven't watched this kid play, he's absolutely the real deal.

Outside of Bennett, Gaudreau, Monahan, Brodie & Hamilton; there shouldn't be anything off the table to get ahold of this kid. If that means we have to fork over a couple top prospects and some NHL'ers to get this deal done, it has to.

In a perfect world we'd see Hudler (retained), Russell, and a couple prospects go the other way. But I have no idea what the cost would be. I would love the crying in Edmonton if the trade isn't huge, and we get it again

 

[Flames Fanatic]

We've got plenty of forward prospects, such as Barzal and Beauvillier who are lighting their leagues, Dal Colle who's turning it on now, and Ho-Sang who is a wild card, plus they have no where to put him if Strome regains last years form. They're not breaking up the 4th line.They will want a capable Dman who could play this year. Theodore Jameison Brodie, I'm looking at you. We also have some solid prospects who could soften the blow.

I know Brodie is comparable and probably the closest thing to an even 1 for 1 out of the Western Canadian teams, but he's just not for sale.

 

[Gritty]

Giordano + Hudler for Hamonic + Okposo

Yes please!

 

[Isles5513]

I know Brodie is comparable and probably the closest thing to an even 1 for 1 out of the Western Canadian teams, but he's just not for sale.

I know. That's what I feel the isles would ask for if they go to Calgary for him. We have some good prospects if it helps soften the blow, like Barzal, Pulock, Beauvillier, MDC, Mayfield, and Pelech, JHS, according to value imo.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I know. That's what I feel the isles would ask for if they go to Calgary for him. We have some good prospects if it helps soften the blow, like Barzal, Pulock, Beauvillier, MDC, Mayfield, and Pelech, JHS, according to value imo.

I think Volicia said it best. We'll move in a combination of any sort (still has to make sense value wise) anyone not named Brodie, Hamilton, Bennett, Monahan or Gaudreau. Our first may likely be off the table unless protected as well.

Not what you are looking for I'm sure, but Hamonic is a luxury for us to be honest. One I would absolutely love having, especially if it means he isn't going to Edmonton or Vancouver.

 

[Isles5513]

Don't forget, Hamonic will be the add on to the Brian Strait blockbuster trade I'm hoping for

 

[Isles5513]

I think Volicia said it best. We'll move in a combination of any sort (still has to make sense value wise) anyone not named Brodie, Hamilton, Bennett, Monahan or Gaudreau. Our first may likely be off the table unless protected as well.

Not what you are looking for I'm sure, but Hamonic is a luxury for us to be honest. One I would absolutely love having, especially if it means he isn't going to Edmonton or Vancouver.

I should've said it better, that Brodie I feel is fair value, but now that this is public I don't think we get fair value.

 

[herashak]

Gotta move gio for him. I don't know if that's worth it

 

[Anglesmith]

I should've said it better, that Brodie I feel is fair value, but now that this is public I don't think we get fair value.

The good news from that perspective is that there's bound to be competition, because every single one of the four Western Canadian teams will be interested in and would benefit from Hamonic's services.