Oh good, this incredibly stupid tactic again.
Clear the space to get him on a long term deal.
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Oh good, this incredibly stupid tactic again.
Clear the space to get him on a long term deal.
It's not trolling, The Oilers can't afford to sign him long term unless they move some serious cap and Bouchard might not even want to sign long term because he knows that he's going to get an enormous contract 2-3 years from now after 2-3 years of playing Oilers top PP unit and playing alongside Ekholm, not to mention in a higher cap landscape. In fact, he'd be foolish to take a long term deal now tbh so a bridge seems like the only path at this point.
The trade scenario Seravelli pointed out is if the Oilers don't want to meet his demands on a long term deal. Of course that's an extremely remote possibility. The Oilers will bridge him then pay for it later but "later" doesn't mean much now so...so be it.
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I for one have no idea why there is any talk of signing/trading guys in the media lol
We are literally going into the playoffs with the best roster we've had in I don't even know how many years.
The focus should be talking about the playoff run, because at the end of the day what we do in the playoffs is going to give Holland a blueprint to the strengths and flaws of this team and what he needs to focus on going forward.
We are literally going into the playoffs with the best roster we've had in I don't even know how many years.
The focus should be talking about the playoff run, because at the end of the day what we do in the playoffs is going to give Holland a blueprint to the strengths and flaws of this team and what he needs to focus on going forward.
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No, get him on his bridge for 2 years, have him massively out perform the cap hit and use the other cap space wisely to shore up the rest of the team.
It makes SO much sense when you consider the window.
Clear which space? To improve as a team, you need to add, not subtract quality depth.
By the time Bouchard's bridge contract would be up, odds are the cap significantly increases.
Friedman's 32 thoughts blog suggests that Woodcroft's trust in Desharnais nixed a deadline deal. Have to think that we probably saved our 2nd not trading for Radko Gudas.
He also mentions Evan Vierling, who I'll take a closer look at in Barrie's next series. Maybe a potential C prospect who might make up for not signing Brind'amour.
He also mentions Evan Vierling, who I'll take a closer look at in Barrie's next series. Maybe a potential C prospect who might make up for not signing Brind'amour.
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Even if you deem certain guys overpaid and want them gone, that money is better off being used on guys to help us now.
There are levers to pull.
Replace Yamamoto (via buyout or trade) with a $1M scoring winger that have been available in droves the past few off seasons (think Sonny Milano type). Or try Lavoie. Yamamoto has been playing at or below this quality this season when he's actually been healthy.
If Foegele keeps up his level of play in the playoffs he'll likely be tradebale - Holloway is an easy replacement there
Kulak is likely tradeable - Broberg replaces.
All of those together would create in the range of $4M in space without materially impacting the team. The only current weaknesses I really see with the roster are #1 RD (although Ceci is purportedly injured, not a problem if he gets back to last year's level) and #2 RW, so it isn't like we're forgoing improving the team to get Bouchard on a longer term deal.
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What's the window? Are we assuming that Draisaitl and McDavid are as good as gone when they are UFA?
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Yeah his 4 points with Tampa since getting traded are too good to pass up.......
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I look at the support cast a lot too.
How long are the support cast going to continue to be as great as they are? RNH, Kane, Hyman, Ekholm, all 30+
Need to capitalize these next few years while there is seemingly a winning formula with a group of guys that work well.
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As those guys age we will have some great young guys coming up. Broberg, Bourgault, Holloway, McLeod. We can continue to add as well
Our window is open as long as McDavid and Drai are still elite.
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I think you could move on from Yams, Ceci/Kulak and Shore pretty easily to clear up some space
Jimmi McJenkins
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We aren't assuming that, but winning is very hard and if you have a way to make that more feasible, you have to take that chance. Getting Bouchard on a deal that he will fully out perform will make the rest of the team better (assuming the cap space is used correctly).
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I’d 100% sign him if he took league minimum. He talked about having a hard time playing Edmonton because he couldn’t get fired up against guys he was still close with, so I feel like he’d come back. The knock on him was the contract. He’s fine as a 4th liner if he wants to chase another cup.
We kind of knew that already. When Desharnais came in and played so solid, we suddenly stopped getting linked to Edmundson
I'm getting so excited for the playoffs. I truly feel this is the year the Oilers break through and win the Cup. I just don't see this team and McDavid being denied.
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Absolutely not. Kostin is a better player, can skate and isn't a dickhead in the room. That guy can sign a retirement deal in Calgary or Vancouver.
If I was Lucic I'd probably sign in Boston for the league min, but I think his family has a home in the LA area and maybe LA or Anaheim would take him for low money.
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To me that doesn't mean making decisions for the short term unless they are the deadline type deals. If it is a core player, you save money in the long run by avoiding the bridge deals.
Not only that but the bridge deal ends at the worst possible time: the years when we have to find money to re sign McDavid and Draisaitl. Part of keeping them means having a great team that they want to stay a part of. Having to walk from Bouchard or other players doesn't help that
I want zero part of Lucic.
- Still thinks he's good and somehow still hasn't been used strictly in a 4th line bit role so there's risk of pouting
- He can't do anything with the puck
- He's the type of player that gets more ice than he should because of reputation, results be damned
- He was a petulant little bitch last time he was here and polished Flame knob when he left. Also have heard anecdotally that he still hates the Oilers.
Risk of being a little baby in the dressing room, except with pretty much zero chance of reward.
- Still thinks he's good and somehow still hasn't been used strictly in a 4th line bit role so there's risk of pouting
- He can't do anything with the puck
- He's the type of player that gets more ice than he should because of reputation, results be damned
- He was a petulant little bitch last time he was here and polished Flame knob when he left. Also have heard anecdotally that he still hates the Oilers.
Risk of being a little baby in the dressing room, except with pretty much zero chance of reward.
I would not pay for Dumba unless he comes at a discount, how much of will it cost to up grade on Ceci.
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