Proposal: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Stauffer Speculates About Another NCAA Forward Signing?

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Jimmi McJenkins

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Lots of times a player get waived and everyone passes and then they are traded afterwards. Teams may not want to add all the salary, they may not want to use up the roster spot.

Just because Fayne was waived that doesn't mean he can't be traded.

Well I was thinking that teams and their structure are a lot different in the offseason then they are in season.

My point, I don't see Fayne as an Oiler next year. Whether that's a trade to another team, or a year in the minors.
 

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What about Nurse + Ebs for Faulk? Carolina gets an elite prospect defenseman and a high scoring winger back.

That's a really good offer but I doubt they do it. They don't need to get younger on D. 4 of their d-men is 24 or younger and they already have an elite prospect defenseman in Hanifin and another high-end prospect in Haydn Fleury. If they, against all odds, would move Faulk it would be for a star player in his prime or two very good NHLers. Something like Hall+ I would imagine. Even then it doesn't make much sense to move an elite dman for a winger. They could just sign Okposo/Eriksson/whoever in free agency instead.
 

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That's a really good offer but I doubt they do it. They don't need to get younger on D. 4 of their d-men is 24 or younger and they already have an elite prospect defenseman in Hanifin and another high-end prospect in Haydn Fleury. If they, against all odds, would move Faulk it would be for a star player in his prime or two very good NHLers. Something like Hall+ I would imagine. Even then it doesn't make much sense to move an elite dman for a winger. They could just sign Okposo/Eriksson/whoever in free agency instead.

If they can't sign Backes, I can see RNH being more attractive considering he's a young center.

RNH++ Faulk makes sense. Who do they have that's better than RNH?
 

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That's a really good offer but I doubt they do it. They don't need to get younger on D. 4 of their d-men is 24 or younger and they already have an elite prospect defenseman in Hanifin and another high-end prospect in Haydn Fleury. If they, against all odds, would move Faulk it would be for a star player in his prime or two very good NHLers. Something like Hall+ I would imagine. Even then it doesn't make much sense to move an elite dman for a winger. They could just sign Okposo/Eriksson/whoever in free agency instead.

The Canes highest scorer had 51 friggen points. Staal is gone, Skinner is what he is, Lindholm is very disappointing. At some point they have to boost offense. Cant just roll along with good D. Even Nashville realized this and dealt away Jones for forward help
 

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What about 4th (or RNH) for Hanifin?

Carolina gets a stud forward, Edmonton gets a young D, however Hanifin is NHL ready and ready to emerge
 

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Lots of times a player get waived and everyone passes and then they are traded afterwards. Teams may not want to add all the salary, they may not want to use up the roster spot.

Just because Fayne was waived that doesn't mean he can't be traded.
At the same time just because he's under 4mil it shouldn't be assumed he can easily be dealt. Movine Faybe probably results in some sort of crap contract coming back. If this is the case I rather keep him.
Oh wow. That would be amazing. Eakins talks a good game. I can see him bamboozling another GM at some point. And then he'll bring in his "swarm system"... :D

Oh and I fixed up the poll. Vote away folks.
I'm not saying Eakins is a good coach, but if you are Eakins aren't you telling GM's look at what TM did with more than I had? Has been damn good at the AHL level just couldn't get an AHL team to succeed in the NHL.

As a GM seeing some of the ex-oilers to go on to look not too bad elsewhere I could half-ass believe this.

It's actually kind of sad to see that we were only three points better this year than Eakins was his full year here.
 

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At the same time just because he's under 4mil it shouldn't be assumed he can easily be dealt. Movine Faybe probably results in some sort of crap contract coming back. If this is the case I rather keep him.

I'm not saying Eakins is a good coach, but if you are Eakins aren't you telling GM's look at what TM did with more than I had? Has been damn good at the AHL level just couldn't get an AHL team to succeed in the NHL.

As a GM seeing some of the ex-oilers to go on to look not too bad elsewhere I could half-ass believe this.

It's actually kind of sad to see that we were only three points better this year than Eakins was his full year here.

The GM will turn around and say, look at what Nelson did with less than what you had
 

joestevens29

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The GM will turn around and say, look at what Nelson did with less than what you had

If you are interviewing Eakins in the first place I doubt that even gets said

If you are interviewing the guy you are already liking the guy enough, which just shows you that GM's are willing to forget about the past
 

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For what it's worth, Eakins has done a standup job coaching Anaheim's AHL affiliate in San Diego. If Bob Murray is looking for an internal replacement, I have a hard time seeing him promote Eakins before MacLean though.
 
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Hmmm my poll doesn't appear to be working. And I can't seem to fix it. I'm going to see if a higher up mod can resolve this for us

Maybe try these :naughty:

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For what it's worth, Eakins has done a standup job coaching Anaheim's AHL affiliate in the AHL. If Bob Murray is looking for an internal replacement, I have a hard time seeing him promote Eakins before MacLean though.

He did a great job in Toronto for Marlies too. Hes just a ego maniac wih horrible NHL systems and no clue how to deal with players, especially vets. Most players who have left have said so pretty bad things about him. A guy like Belov said so pretty scathing things about him before going back to Russia.

Im torn

1) I really like Anahiem but they are a division powerhouse. So Id like Eakins to tear them apart so Oilers have a shot at playoffs. But feel bad for the team
2) I hate Calgary and id love him to go there for the comedy. But Calgary already sucks, so he just makes a bad team worse, which is good for comedy relief but doesnt help playoff chances as much as Ducks imploding would
 

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I'm much more excited about Eakins in Calgary than Anaheim.

Anaheim has an internal budget and some of those contracts are about to become terrible. Yes, they have good young pieces but I think that situation is worse in the next 5 years than Calgary.
 

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At the same time just because he's under 4mil it shouldn't be assumed he can easily be dealt. Movine Faybe probably results in some sort of crap contract coming back. If this is the case I rather keep him.

I'm not saying Eakins is a good coach, but if you are Eakins aren't you telling GM's look at what TM did with more than I had? Has been damn good at the AHL level just couldn't get an AHL team to succeed in the NHL.

As a GM seeing some of the ex-oilers to go on to look not too bad elsewhere I could half-ass believe this.

It's actually kind of sad to see that we were only three points better this year than Eakins was his full year here.

He's been good at the AHL level because the swarm system he loves works well in a league with slower, less skilled players. As soon as he tries it in the NHL, he has 4 and 5 guys chasing a puck carrier that easily has enough skill to get the puck to one of the 3 open players on his team. Can't wait to see another team hire him as head coach.

Edmonton in Eakins' full season GD -67 and the most goals allowed in the league. TM's first season GD -42 and 15 less GA than the worst team in the league. TM also had worse injury problems.
 

Aceboogie

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Eakins hired Jun 10 2013 to a 4 year contract. Would we have received comp if he was hired (under old rules)

As I was typing this I remembered that horrible rule changed

Getting comp for Eakins would have been icing on cake
 

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What about 4th (or RNH) for Hanifin?

Carolina gets a stud forward, Edmonton gets a young D, however Hanifin is NHL ready and ready to emerge

Hanafin might be a bit too far on the youthful side for the type of defenseman the Oilers need if they are trading their best expendable asset, not to mention he's another left shot D. Would have to consider it though, since developed defensemen are significantly more expensive to acquire. It's definitely a high risk/high reward type acquisition as Hanafin's future impact is still very much up in the air.
 

Aceboogie

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Hanafin might be a bit too far on the youthful side for the type of defenseman the Oilers need if they are trading their best expendable asset, not to mention he's another left shot D. Would have to consider it though, since developed defensemen are significantly more expensive to acquire. It's definitely a high risk/high reward type acquisition as Hanafin's future impact is still very much up in the air.

Gotta risk it sometimes. I mean Hamonic is way more proven. But Hanifin proved good this year himself and his upside is as a #1D. But he could also stall developely. Only way in my eyes to get a #1 is to trade for a potential one.
 

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He's been good at the AHL level because the swarm system he loves works well in a league with slower, less skilled players. As soon as he tries it in the NHL, he has 4 and 5 guys chasing a puck carrier that easily has enough skill to get the puck to one of the 3 open players on his team. Can't wait to see another team hire him as head coach.

Edmonton in Eakins' full season GD -67 and the most goals allowed in the league. TM's first season GD -42 and 15 less GA than the worst team in the league. TM also had worse injury problems.

Other teams use the swarm system in the NHL, the issues with Eakins went much deeper than just what system he favored. They could have played the simplest of systems out there, wouldn't have done much good as the HC considered sitting in the stands and touching base with the reporters was more important than running practices himself.
 
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