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[nexttothemoon]

My guess (and it's fairly obvious) is that whatever McLeod gets in arbitration (or if they agree to a number beforehand) will be deducted from:

$5,609,208​

...and Bouchard gets the rest.

Bouchard could come in at $3,359,208 if McLeod gets $2.25 million.

Bouchard would be pretty underpaid at that rate coming off back to back 40+ point seasons and a playoffs where he was better than a point per game... but them's the breaks when he has no arbitration rights.

 

[gordonhught]

I was hoping that JP would come back.

No one here likes him I guess.

 

[Anarchism]

I was hoping that JP would come back.

No one here likes him I guess.

He will be much happier back in Finland.

Watching videos of Zack Ostapchuk ...going to be his first year in Bellville. He has a tendency to start slow and build through the year. But he will be good defensively to start with so likely gets increased playing time as it goes.

 

[Anarchism]

Seattle's got a lot of prospects that should make it over the next 3 years.
This year we should see some of Wright, Ryker, and Tye.
Next year they should have Goyette, Firkus and Nelson heading to the A.
But who knows--they have the rights to Kole Lind -- a star in the dub and at most a tweener now.

We better git going...both LA and Seattle are up and coming....
Kenny has done nothing to improve our defensive game or improve our aggressiveness or our bottom six.

 

[FlameChampion]

I do wonder if Holland had numbers for McLeod and Bouchard at the start of the offseason. He probably could of signed McLeod for 2m and been done with it. I don’t think his patience helped in this case.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I do wonder if Holland had numbers for McLeod and Bouchard at the start of the offseason. He probably could of signed McLeod for 2m and been done with it. I don’t think his patience helped in this case.

Holland likely left room for signing them both for a combined ~$5.5 million (which would leave an extra ~$100,000 cap room to have Broberg on a 22 man roster roster instead of Niemelainen)... thinking that Bouchard would get ~$4 million and McLeod would get ~$1.5 million... but McLeod's camp didn't go for that and that's where we are now... since the divide between Holland and McLeod's side is likely wide enough to push this into arbitration.

Holland will still have to split up that $5.5 million in cap space between Bouchard/McLeod but it's looking more and more likely that it's going to be the arbitrator that determines how that $5.5 million pie is eventually divided.

 

[McAsuno]

I was hoping that JP would come back.

No one here likes him I guess.

I got love for JP, but he's not coming back here just like the team not being interested in bringing him back either.
Sail on.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I was hoping that JP would come back.

No one here likes him I guess.

He didn’t want to be here clearly. Finally went to go play with his buddy and still sucked.

No thanks.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

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[Ck1]

Am I missing something my cap friendly has us sitting with 7 mil left to sign Bouchard and McLeod

 

[OilerTyler]

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Am I missing something my cap friendly has us sitting with 7 mil left to sign Bouchard and McLeod

I think that's if we were to run a 20 man roster which isn't very likely.

 

[Ck1]

I think that's if we were to run a 20 man roster which isn't very likely.

Ok thx for the info should of noticed that
so if we can sign Bouchard and Mcleod for 6 mil or under leaves us with about a mil to sign a player and run a 21 man roster which is likely the scenario Holland is looking at

 

[duul]

Wish we would just cut our losses, move on from Foegele and run a full roster for once. Bring in all three kids in Holloway, Bourgault, Lavoie. Having a full roster that we can use to rest players accordingly and give real shots to players who seem like they might be able to make an impact seems worth it. Then at the deadline we'll know what we have or don't going into the playoffs and can add accordingly.

 

[Anarchism]

Wish we would just cut our losses, move on from Foegele and run a full roster for once. Bring in all three kids in Holloway, Bourgault, Lavoie. Having a full roster that we can use to rest players accordingly and give real shots to players who seem like they might be able to make an impact seems worth it. Then at the deadline we'll know what we have or don't going into the playoffs and can add accordingly.

What a bad idea.

 

[FlameChampion]

Ok thx for the info should of noticed that
so if we can sign Bouchard and Mcleod for 6 mil or under leaves us with about a mil to sign a player and run a 21 man roster which is likely the scenario Holland is looking at

Yeah will pretty much be a 21 man roster at this point. Was hoping we would be able to carry an extra F and D.

 

[samiam]

Wish we would just cut our losses, move on from Foegele and run a full roster for once. Bring in all three kids in Holloway, Bourgault, Lavoie. Having a full roster that we can use to rest players accordingly and give real shots to players who seem like they might be able to make an impact seems worth it. Then at the deadline we'll know what we have or don't going into the playoffs and can add accordingly.

Apparently, the leader ship group really like having him in the room, have asked to have him stick around.

 

[Anarchism]

Apparently, the leader ship group really like having him in the room, have asked to have him stick around.

Its more than that...do you know why? Or do you think he is the guy that gets the coffee in between periods?
Your leadership group are just as able as you to pull up capfriendly. They know Foegele's money would net them a Comtois, Grant, and a Pius and have money left over.

 

[duul]

What a bad idea.

How so? Do you think the difference between Foegele being here vs allowing us room to house both Bourgault and Lavoie is too big a chasm for this group to make up for if both rookies falter?

 

[McShogun99]

How so? Do you think the difference between Foegele being here vs allowing us room to house both Bourgault and Lavoie is too big a chasm for this group to make up for if both rookies falter?

Being a cup contending tea am and trying to break in a bunch of rookies at the same time is a recipe for disaster. We’re going to have 2 rookies/sophomores on defence in Broberg and VD and probably 2 at forward with Holloway and Lavoie. Need vets with playoff experience and Foegele usually elevates his game in the playoffs.

 

[duul]

Being a cup contending tea am and trying to break in a bunch of rookies at the same time is a recipe for disaster. We’re going to have 2 rookies/sophomores on defence in Broberg and VD and probably 2 at forward with Holloway and Lavoie. Need vets with playoff experience and Foegele usually elevates his game in the playoffs.

His five playoff performances:

15 games 9 points
8 games 1 point
10 games 2 points
13 games 1 point
12 games 3 points

So no, if anything he regresses significantly come crunch time. I would put money on any of Holloway, Bourgault, Lavoie being just as impactful as him in the playoffs. You also completely choose to ignore the point being we use the season up until TDL to teach these kids and see what we have in them before deciding how to proceed. At the deadline we can offload a bit more salary and draft picks etc to bring in a proven playoff performer.

The cap has f***ed us with Holland's guidance here to a point where we don't have much of a choice. Keeping Foegele seems senseless when he isn't ever going to be the difference between us making a playoff spot or not. Coupled with him struggling badly in the playoffs and being the obvious form of moving salary in the forward group, AND moving him allowing us to finally role a full roster of players...it seems straightforward.

 

[KCC]

Seattle's got a lot of prospects that should make it over the next 3 years.
This year we should see some of Wright, Ryker, and Tye.
Next year they should have Goyette, Firkus and Nelson heading to the A.
But who knows--they have the rights to Kole Lind -- a star in the dub and at most a tweener now.

We better git going...both LA and Seattle are up and coming....
Kenny has done nothing to improve our defensive game or improve our aggressiveness or our bottom six.

Edm is worse than last year. Still a playoff team but holland will need to work some magic at the trade deadline as next season progresses. heading into the season I’m not exactly jumping for joy though. Lol

 

[Stealth1616]

Edm is worse than last year. Still a playoff team but holland will need to work some magic at the trade deadline as next season progresses. heading into the season I’m not exactly jumping for joy though. Lol

Not really sure how you come up with that assessment considering we basically have the exact same team returning.

Certainly better then the team last year at the start of the season

 

[Kwiatkowski18]

I was hoping that JP would come back.

No one here likes him I guess.

Why would we want him back? I see 0 upside in a guy that's trending backwards. He's toast at an nhl level.

 

[gordonhught]

Why would we want him back? I see 0 upside in a guy that's trending backwards. He's toast at an nhl level.

Hater. Don't you like JP?

 

[bobbythebrain]

Hates Foegle and McLeod..
Doesn't realize both players have been good in the playoffs.
Wants to replace them with rookies.
Complains Holland isn't doing enough to make this team competitive.

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