Speculation: Roster Building Thread XLVIII: Draft day is a comin'

[E-Train]

Yeah, because trading a 25 year old top 6 center for a "young center" makes a lot of sense. Not much to not "understand". Not trading Nash, and his 7.8M cap hit, makes more sense.

There's plenty to "understand". If your 26 year old center can return 2-3 assets that become part of your core going forward, you make the move. Gagline nailed it with who'd you rather have now Brass or Gabby? Think the Flyers like having Simmonds and Schenn instead of the corpse of Mike Richards?

I'd rather not trade our 26 year old 1st line center, but if he brings the best return, it's part of building this roster for the future.

 

[TheTakedown]

If they can get a couple of young players back in the deals, add Buch, McIlrath and Skjei as regulars and maybe sign a UFA or 2 (not high end) they may be okay.

I'm a big proponent of Helm. I think he adds an element the team lacked last year. Re-sign Stalberg. Sign Riley Nash. Depth guys.

Helm Stalberg and Riley Nash would be awesome additions.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Is a 34 year old Hartnell with 3 years left on a 4.5M/per contract for Girardi or Staal something positive for us? I'm not sure. He's got a lot of physical mileage on that body. Not sure I'd do it

Hartnell has still been relatively productive on a bad Columbus team. If it helps us get out of one of the Staal or Girardi contracts, I'd definitely think it'd be a worthwile move.

 

[darko]

Probably because they have a ton of value right now and likely won't when the Rangers are ready to compete again.

Yeah. If this rebuild/re-tool take say 2-3 years it means Zucca/Brass will be in their 30s and chance are on the decline or back end of their peak.

 

[darko]

Hartnell has still been relatively productive on a bad Columbus team. If it helps us get out of one of the Staal or Girardi contracts, I'd definitely think it'd be a worthwile move.

I would too.

 

[darko]

Leading up to the trade, lots of people said you don't trade a 40 goal scorer. Would anyone take Gaborik for Brassard now?

Bingo.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Helm Stalberg and Riley Nash would be awesome additions.

Could be cost prohibitive though (if being used in a 4th line role. Stalberg and Nash would probably get $1.5 each and Helm would get more then that.

 

[silverfish]

After seeing what he's doing with the Riveters this off-season, I wish Chad Wiseman was the Rangers GM.

 

[TheTakedown]

Did 2014 get wiped from your memory already?

I think the consensus is that 2014 is an anomaly

 

[Filip Chytil]

After seeing what he's doing with the Riveters this off-season, I wish Chad Wiseman was the Rangers GM.

How can you go wrong with a guy whose last name is "Wiseman?"

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

Please take the Corsi conversation to the thread made for it. I know there's not a lot to talk about but I'd rather not scroll through posts and posts of who has the better corsi in the Roster building thread.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

How can you go wrong with a guy whose last name is "Wiseman?"

Had to Google him. Thought for a sec Silverfish was making him up

 

[TheTakedown]

For all the possession talk going on, I would have liked to see the reaction of people if the Rangers had gone out and added two historically poor possession players in Bonino and Kessel. I also remember plenty of people telling me how atrocious Trevor Daley was.

Maybe AV just sucks as a coach? Seems Sullivan knew what he needed to run his system .... AV insisted on playing Girardi way too many minutes.

Or is that sathers fault?

I can't seem to figure this out?

 

[Ghost of jas]

Hartnell has still been relatively productive on a bad Columbus team. If it helps us get out of one of the Staal or Girardi contracts, I'd definitely think it'd be a worthwile move.

I would for Girardi, but I think Staal has actual trade value.

 

[TheTakedown]

Scott Hartnell has agreed to waive his NMC. I wonder if a swap for Staal or G is a possibility

Columbus does need a defenseman

 

[East Coast Bias]

Please take the Corsi conversation to the thread made for it. I know there's not a lot to talk about but I'd rather not scroll through posts and posts of who has the better corsi in the Roster building thread.

Totally. I'd much rather read declaritive statements about what we can and cannot do with Girardi and Staal because of the expansion draft, when the "rules" of the expansion draft change everytime the wind blows.

 

[silverfish]

Columbus does need a defenseman

Their coach is Tortorella

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

Totally. I'd much rather read declaritive statements about what we can and cannot do with Girardi and Staal because of the expansion draft, when the "rules" of the expansion draft change everytime the wind blows.

If you want to read about advanced stats go to the god damn thread

 

[Raspewtin]

If you want to read about advanced stats go to the god damn thread

they're a part of player evaluation whether you want them to be or not.

 

[RangerBoy]

Why is Stepan's name out there? Larry Brooks. Mike Russo. They are not making up the rumor.

 

[Leetch3]

Had to Google him. Thought for a sec Silverfish was making him up

how young are you that you don't remember hartford wolfpack legend chad wiseman lol

 

[NYRKING30]

I think everyone should just agree that any option is on the table right now. i f you get blown away for Hank, you do it, if you get blown away for Stepan you do it, if you get blown away for McDonagh you do it. Point is anyone is available for the right price and thats the route the FO is taking so far by all accounts. HFNYR has to be the one forum on here where it seems like everyone is constantly hating on each other and act like we all don't root for the same cause and the same crest on the front of the jersey. Chill out people, advanced stats people aren't better than traditionalists or traditionalists aren't any better than advanced stats geeks.

 

[NYRKING30]

how young are you that you don't remember hartford wolfpack legend chad wiseman lol

I think a lot of people on here are either too young or started watching hockey in the last 10 years or basically the Henrik era for the most part. Its pretty easy to tell for the most part. BTW, Ken Gernander= GOAT of the Pac .

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

they're a part of player evaluation whether you want them to be or not.

I understand that to a degree but i just don't want pages and pages of it in this thread. I don't have a twitter so i only scroll through this looking for RangerBoy and Irishguys posts

 

[Raspewtin]

I understand that to a degree but i just don't want pages and pages of it in this thread. I don't have a twitter so i only scroll through this looking for RangerBoy and Irishguys posts

there's like 5 posts about them in the last few pages.