Mac n Gs
Gorton plz
- Jan 17, 2014
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So since the Kings only scored 3 against Vegas in 4 games, the Zucc to LA narrative is gonna go into overdrive, right?
So since the Kings only scored 3 against Vegas in 4 games, the Zucc to LA narrative is gonna go into overdrive, right?
CorrectBtw I believe a team can only retain on three players at a given time.
Had a look. Seems Rangers with zero retained once Nash comes off the books.Correct
I feel like the whole Evander Kane scenario is us complaining about how the women we take home from the bar tend to be more trouble than their worth, and then going up to the girl with the "crazy" look in her eyes.
Yes, that first night might be pretty fun. And then the sun comes up...
#1 - hopefully land a top 3 pick in the draft lotto scheme.
Trade Zucc, Spooner along with one of OGara, Gilmour or Nieves. Try to unload Smith too, eating some salary.
Resign the other RFAs to reasonable deals
Let all the UFAs walk. Maybe keep a vet or two for Hartford that can move up if need be. (Sproul/Carey/Holland ?)
Maybe sign another long shot like Lindkvist, be it a college player or European
Invite Tchakev to camp.
Acquire assets.
Draft wisely, moving up or down and/or trading at given opportune times
Sign a few shorter term UFAs. Kovalchuk, j Moore and JVR perhaps if he takes a Shatty type deal.
Come to camp prepared with a new coaching staff.
I don’t see Kane as a target. Besides the potential character issues, most reports do not have Gorton looking at long term deals, meaning anything over three years. Kane coming to NY is bad idea for both Kane and the Rangers.
Desharnais did fine and pretty much was what he was asked to be. I felt he was a bit of a scapegoat.
No problem with having him as a backup.
If I was Gorton, I would be heavily looking into how badly Montreal wants to get rid of Andrew Shaw's contract.
Staal + Vesey
for
Shaw + Galchenyuk
we take on ~3M in salary
Shaw although massively overpaid can still be a useful player at times, and is an agitator which we don't have. Gotta think Galchenyuk is on the block. Both in their mid 20's still.
Staal is still an ok defenseman with less years remaining on his contract than Shaw
Vesey thrown in as a sweetener, and to replace Shaw's production.
They free up some more space to make a run at Tavares
would anybody do this?
does montreal do this?
can this be massaged into a workable deal?
combine this with a Zucc for Klefbom deal, Sign Kovalchuk,
Kreider - Zib - Buch
Galchy - Hayes - Spooner
Kovalchuk - Chytil - Lias
Names/trade/FA/call-up - Shaw - Fast
Klefbom - Shattenkirk
Skjei - Smith/ADA/Pionk
FA/Rookie/Gilmour/Dahlin - Smith/ADA/Pionk
Hank
Georgiev
That team looks pretty good. D still a little weak, maybe move Namestnikov/Spooner/some later picks for D, could Sign John Moore for bottom pairing.
Chytil is a world class talent but it's a raw talent. I'd like him, to take simple assignments and build confidence while mistakes are covered. The RW next to Kreider and Zibanejad is just about the easiest place in the league to be. Let him start there while he hones the pro game. If it goes well, he centers next year.
Andersson is very much the opposite. Already polished player who just needs time to grow into himself. I think we should develop him similar to Horvat or Couturier. Let him center a lower line and teach him defense first. I'm not saying give him the hardest assignments, but let him rack up D-zone starts and give him a sense of responsibility and importance. Don't force him to go 200 feet until his skating improves. No expectations on his production.
LAK needs to tear it down before its too late. They have no defense beyond Doughty. Martinez and Muzzin are good but not anything fantastic. Good Top 4 guys although I think Martinez’s game is plateauing. Need to move on from Brown. I would see what you can get for Kopitar and/or Carter. As a team they seemed slow.
Both teams are a cautionary tale of time and money. I know the Kings didn't give Carter that contract and when healthy he is still playing at a high level but at 33, decline beckons. The one guy they need to move is Dustin Brown. I thought he was washed up but if they can find a (sucker) Eastern Conference team to take him, Id move him in a minute. At 33, this year was not a bounceback as much as an aberration.The Kings have 11 players left from their Cup winning team 4 years ago. They need to break up that team. Doughty will get a huge long term contract offer to stay in LA this summer. They already have $72M committed for next season. LA scored three goals in a sweep to an expansion team.
The Ducks have so much money tied up in three aging forwards. Getzlaf,Perry and Kesler. Anaheim is basically stuck with the same team which loses every year. They can't break up the team and lose with different players.
The Caps are the same thing. Carlson is going to get a massive contract this summer. The Caps are screwed both ways. Pay him or lose him. He will get 7 years as a free agent. Crazy money. The Caps can't replace him. They gave a 31 year old TJ Oshie 8 years. Good luck to them.
Gorton made the right decision to begin the process of rebuilding. Avoid those long term contracts to players in their late twenties to mid thirties. Break it down and start fresh.
Every now and then the topic of Eric Staal comes up. Oohh why couldn't we do more with him? Why didn't we keep him? But like watch Minny in the POs. Eric Staal is a burden for his team, way to slow to skate against better teams when the games look like they do during the POs. Sure he is clutch, but I don't think he cut it at center at the highest level. Last year he was 0+1 in 5 games in the POs and this year he has better numbers with 1+1 in 4 games. But he is just not good at all.
This year in 4 games he has a CF% of 42% which is tremendously bad for a team that has trailed as much as they have. Last year he was bottom 5 on Minny.
Thank god we didn't keep him. Slow centers just don't work well in this league right now.
I figured they probably wouldn't, but in a weird way, it makes sense for them.Montreal does not do that. It isn't terrible but... If their GM is anything like their fans (it is Bergevin after all so you really don't know) they expected Kreider (L O EFFING L) for Shaw. When I see the price tag that MB attached to Pacioretty, I could imagine him having that high of an ask for Shaw. And, if you listened to his interview from last week, it is clear that the guy has no idea what the hell he is doing. Fans usually like to believe they are smarter than the GM and in most cases they are very wrong. With regards to MB, I am confident that 99% of posters on HFboards could do a better job than him.
There is no question that the man is the worst GM in the NHL and although this phrase gets abused, it really isn't even close. It doesn't stop there. Bergevin isn't just the worst GM in the NHL. He is one of the worst GM's in NHL history. If you feel I am exaggerating, I beg of you to go listen to the interview he did. It was an embarrassment. I bleed NYR blue. I have for as long as I can remember. But if he was our GM, I would stop watching as I know there would be zero chance for success.
The Kings have 11 players left from their Cup winning team 4 years ago. They need to break up that team. Doughty will get a huge long term contract offer to stay in LA this summer. They already have $72M committed for next season. LA scored three goals in a sweep to an expansion team.
The Ducks have so much money tied up in three aging forwards. Getzlaf,Perry and Kesler. Anaheim is basically stuck with the same team which loses every year. They can't break up the team and lose with different players.
The Caps are the same thing. Carlson is going to get a massive contract this summer. The Caps are screwed both ways. Pay him or lose him. He will get 7 years as a free agent. Crazy money. The Caps can't replace him. They gave a 31 year old TJ Oshie 8 years. Good luck to them.
Gorton made the right decision to begin the process of rebuilding. Avoid those long term contracts to players in their late twenties to mid thirties. Break it down and start fresh.
Montreal does not do that. It isn't terrible but... If their GM is anything like their fans (it is Bergevin after all so you really don't know) they expected Kreider (L O EFFING L) for Shaw. When I see the price tag that MB attached to Pacioretty, I could imagine him having that high of an ask for Shaw. And, if you listened to his interview from last week, it is clear that the guy has no idea what the hell he is doing. Fans usually like to believe they are smarter than the GM and in most cases they are very wrong. With regards to MB, I am confident that 99% of posters on HFboards could do a better job than him.
There is no question that the man is the worst GM in the NHL and although this phrase gets abused, it really isn't even close. It doesn't stop there. Bergevin isn't just the worst GM in the NHL. He is one of the worst GM's in NHL history. If you feel I am exaggerating, I beg of you to go listen to the interview he did. It was an embarrassment. I bleed NYR blue. I have for as long as I can remember. But if he was our GM, I would stop watching as I know there would be zero chance for success.
Holy ****, i just found that interview (with questions edited out just so you hear Bergy's answers)....
What a moron....
Jack Todd: Marc Bergevin shows how not to take responsibility for poor performance
Every now and then the topic of Eric Staal comes up. Oohh why couldn't we do more with him? Why didn't we keep him? But like watch Minny in the POs. Eric Staal is a burden for his team, way to slow to skate against better teams when the games look like they do during the POs. Sure he is clutch, but I don't think he cut it at center at the highest level. Last year he was 0+1 in 5 games in the POs and this year he has better numbers with 1+1 in 4 games. But he is just not good at all.
This year in 4 games he has a CF% of 42% which is tremendously bad for a team that has trailed as much as they have. Last year he was bottom 5 on Minny.
Thank god we didn't keep him. Slow centers just don't work well in this league right now.
What? He scored 42 goals this year. He's got 70 goals and 71 assists over 2 season for them.
They suck but I'm not sure how you can pin that on him.