I would agree in the 3-3.2 range, at most. I still do not think it is a bad deal, especially if the Rangers only have Panarin and Zibanejad as the veteran forwards.
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I would agree in the 3-3.2 range, at most. I still do not think it is a bad deal, especially if the Rangers only have Panarin and Zibanejad as the veteran forwards.
NoQuitInNewMexico
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Plus it was entirely reasonable to think they'd win a Cup one of those two years.
I think it's fair to say we lost the trade, but I don't love Howden and it's hard to ignore how easy they were able to flip JTM. But we absolutely killed it in the Habs McDonagh + Ottawa Zibanejad trades, you win some and you lose some, and we didn't lose this one as bad as we won the others.
you can only weigh things that make things look worse for us
kypreos was acquired during the 93-94 season so he wouldn't have been on the rangers in the 93 game
Uncle Larry feels Fast deserves a new contract https://nypost.com/2019/10/21/rangers-glue-guy-jesper-fast-deserves-contract-extension/
he might price himself out of his roll...but at the right price, can't argue at all. would love to keep him around as a vet.
he might price himself out of his roll...but at the right price, can't argue at all. would love to keep him around as a vet.
Irishguy42
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Some team is going to give Fast a contract with 3 or 4 years this summer, and I hope it's not us.
*Vancouver Canucks peek around the corner*
*Vancouver Canucks peek around the corner*
HatTrick Swayze
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There is no way to justify a $3M x 3-4 for Fast. I love the guy but come on. Not a smart move.
Fast is one of my favorite players, and I would love to see him extended at a team friendly number for up to three years. That being said, I think his visit to the top line is a reflection of two things: Fast has all the qualities listed in that Brooks article, and I think he complements any line he's on. The other thing is that he's a pending UFA and there's no better way to boost his return than to play him up and give him every opportunity to succeed.
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kovazub94
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Maybe not JTM’s contract but two years past and you saw what Hays and Zuke got so crazy $$ are not out of question. Would not be surprised with over $3.5 per.
lucky13
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I would go 2-3 yrs at 2.5-2.75 max... would love to keep him but anything more then that is just too much imo.
Hayes was absolutely stellar in a Rangers sweater ever since the trade deadline 1.5 years ago, stellar. Zuccarello is also more of an impact player than Fast. I did not think he would taper off like he has in Minnesota but Minnesota has been way too old for way too long.
Maybe some team does decide to open up the wallet for Fast. I would not understand it but it is certainly possible.
kovazub94
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I didn’t read your post until after I wrote mine so had no idea your high range was the same I also mentioned, lol. Your number is obviously more realistic but $3.7-3.8 are not much different.
kovazub94
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Of course but that’s why I’m not suggesting $7m or over $5m, but Fast’s role in the context of UFA could be expensive.
egelband
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He might get that from another team that sees him as a Top 9 guy. But as I think he's more of a Bottom 6 guy (I know that's a bit of an odd distinction to draw) I would think 2-2.5 is a good deal. I think the latter is on the taker from the Rangers with adjustment depending on duration. And I think he could also get a bit more (both salary and responsibility) from another team if he wants it.
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Good call. So it is Kris King. I had the right game but was confused on when we got rid of King and acquired Kypreos.
I can see some team being stupid and overpay at 3 or 4 mil per. The average 4th liner does get overpaid as an UFA during the summer. It better not be the Rangers. I'd pay him no more than 2.5 and no more than 2 years. Replaceable by a younger complete player Andersson should replace Fast in my opinion. Raising Fast's trade value by giving him 1st line minutes with Mika and Panarin. Think about it and the timing. Why wait until the deadline, he is healthy now. He is breaking down as well.
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This will not end well for 76.
This will not end well for 89.
This will not end well for 16.
I am on board for selling all of the aforementioned for 70 cents on the dollar. Futures? Fine.
sounding off on 76 - We have young depth on the back line. Moving on from Skjei is an upgrade, but they won’t do it given the spoon-fed bromance the organization gave him with Trouba. Legit doing everything they can to hide 76 ineptitude as a D. Keep the marketing campaign going. Nothing against Skjei, he’s a fine athlete and I would enjoy playing college intramural football with him. He’s not an NHL top 4.
If I never see Buchnevich’s sour expression again, it would be too soon. There’s talent here but I’m over it. The positives do not outweigh the negatives. Addition by subtraction.
This will not end well for 89.
This will not end well for 16.
I am on board for selling all of the aforementioned for 70 cents on the dollar. Futures? Fine.
sounding off on 76 - We have young depth on the back line. Moving on from Skjei is an upgrade, but they won’t do it given the spoon-fed bromance the organization gave him with Trouba. Legit doing everything they can to hide 76 ineptitude as a D. Keep the marketing campaign going. Nothing against Skjei, he’s a fine athlete and I would enjoy playing college intramural football with him. He’s not an NHL top 4.
If I never see Buchnevich’s sour expression again, it would be too soon. There’s talent here but I’m over it. The positives do not outweigh the negatives. Addition by subtraction.
Fitzy
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Won't get much love but that's really as high as you can go. It turns into a big mistake anywhere after that.
You don't often see 3B/4A guys stick with the same franchise into UFA age often- and for a reason. The players are smart, they're never going to get a 50 million dollar contract. The difference between a 12 million dollar deal and an 8 million one is really big for these guys. You've got a lot of take-home taxes and estate taxes in Scandanavian countries to consider too. The point is that Fast has no reason to not take the best deal offered him- and the best deal offered is not likely to be that of the Rangers. It's likely to be a team in a good position with good value top 6 contracts on hand who need a more proven defensive forward.
I hope they keep Fast for some small reasons, but not if it means overpaying. It's simply not the area of the lineup that a team still in rebuild mode can overpay for.
I can definitely see some team give Fast 16 mil 4 Mil per cap hit type of deal. He is type of player that would get overpaid especially by a desperate team over the summer
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The cap hit does not scare me, but his term might. Would prefere a 2 - year deal, could at most do a 3-year deal.
I guess Uncle Larry had been reading my posts about getting Fast resigned.
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