Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part L

[Kovalev27]

So 2 years then right? He'll be UFA eligible after 3. I don't see the Rangers doing 3 unless it's for a very team friendly cap hit.

They’ll try for 2 he’ll try for 3

 

[NYR Viper]

Why does Lindholm return more than McDonagh? Next years season will be shorter than normal. I’m not sure I see these Lundqvist + Miller + 1st offers for a guy like him. Hajek/Reunanen + Howden/Henriksson + CAR 1st. Howden and Hajek were not Tampa’s best assets at the time of that deal. McDonagh was traded at the deadline prior to his last season on his deal.

 

[bbny]

They’ll try for 2 he’ll try for 3

Most likely yeah. Sounds like a 1 year arb deal incoming tbh.

 

[Ola]

Werenski And McAvoy signed 3 year deals with the third year being the highest value to up their qualifying offers.

Tony’s gonna do the same thing if he can’t get term

Can’t get term? I am concerned that he won’t sign a long contract. If he signs a long contract Gorton can trade him anywhere for a good return. TDA has insane stats and arbitrarion rights. He can cruise to UFA and go anywhere he wants for top dollars.

We don’t have any leverage with TDA. The last contract he signed was the last we had any leverage negotiating.

 

[Kovalev27]

Can’t get term? I am concerned that he won’t sign a long contract. If he signs a long contract Gorton can trade him anywhere for a good return. TDA has insane stats and arbitrarion rights. He can cruise to UFA and go anywhere he wants for top dollars.

when I say that I mean if he can’t get a 7 or 8 year deal at an agreed upon number

 

[Vitto79]

Robertson is a good prospect but he's still 2 seasons away at the bare minimum.

Reaunanen- I don't see a path to the NHL for him. Too many glaring holes in his game.

Miller is still a big ???

Zac Jones still has probably 2-3 years to develop left too.

Lots of good prospects, but none are close in my opinion.

Which is why bringing a top 4 LD in now isn’t nuts. x , Lindgren , Staal , Hajek...Miller call up this year . Might be stuck w Smith still too

Then next yr, x, Lindgren, Miller w Robertson and Jones in the A

I’m not counting on Hajek or Reunanen it’s a bonus If one turns out

 

[I Eat Crow]

I'd check in with FLA and see if Acciari can be had. I know he shot 19% last year, but he hits like a lunatic, is in his prime, plays every shift hard, etc. He also won 48% of his draws last year. He'd make a solid 3C or 4C. Also on a sweet $1.67M per deal for another couple years. Would send back Howden. FLA gets a young piece for their future.

I'm no fan of Howden, but that would be a horrible trade.

48% on faceoffs isn't at all great, either.

 

[egelband]

Islanders paid thru the nose for that 4th line. They have to play them. Will be a problem very soon.

it’s not the norm

Yeah. Such a weird approach. I know they’re doing well now but i don’t like it. But maybe it’s due to their circumstances.

 

[SA16]

I have no interest in Todd Rierden. He took over a Stanley Cup championship team and wasn’t able to win a playoff series.

Did you see the Capitals defense this year? They looked like a turnstile.

On top of everything else, Rierden looks pretty sullen on the bench. I’d rather someone with some energy and enthusiasm.

I’d still love them to take a look at Scott Stevens.

Did you see the Caps defense their Stanley Cup year? I guess not.

 

[Ola]

We have cap issues. Something will have to give. I've said it before, but I could see Strome signing his 3.2 mil QO.

Yeah, I don’t mind giving him a short deal. You risk that he will walk but I don’t think there is much of a market for him anyway with his contract situation.

 

[SA16]

I'm no fan of Howden, but that would be a horrible trade.

48% on faceoffs isn't at all great, either.

That would be a great trade. Acciari is actually a good defensive center.

 

[eco's bones]

I imagine Tony’s agent will ask for either a 3 year deal, or a two year so they can do a high salary QO for the third year to go right into UFA

This guy wants to get paid, he’s not been shy about it

If it goes to arbitration as I expect it will it will be a one or two year deal depending on which side takes the other to arbitration. Now they might work something other out while in arbitration for a longer term but if the deal ends up arbitrated it's one or two.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Did you see the Caps defense their Stanley Cup year? I guess not.

I guess the question is how much of the success with the Capitals defense was Reirden and how much of it was Trotz? Trotz has a stifling defense on Long Island. Is that him or is it Korn?

 

[haohmaru]

Is that realistic?

More realistic if he starts the year here as the 2 and gets traded at the deadline but then you factor losing Georgiev into that as well and that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

 

[Anthony5967]

I'm no fan of Howden, but that would be a horrible trade.

48% on faceoffs isn't at all great, either.

Acciari, albeit won't score 20 again, plays the game 100mph and forechecks extremely well, something this club lacked during the qualifiers, and it was evident. Howden, to me, isn't the fleetest of foot and lacks the ability to forecheck consistently, in my opinion.

 

[Ola]

Acciari, albeit won't score 20 again, plays the game 100mph and forechecks extremely well, something this club lacked during the qualifiers, and it was evident. Howden, to me, isn't the fleetest of foot and lacks the ability to forecheck consistently, in my opinion.

Howden should probably be moved to wing. Most teams are relying a lot on smart centers nowadays. We have even seen a return of the vet checking C with size. Those guys, Sutter and co, have learned to read the game pretty well by now.

 

[Ola]

Gorton’s job isn’t entirely easy this off season. A lot of log-jams on the roster. Not really any room for the kids. In all certainty, a feel that the team must take a step in the right direction.

There are few moves in this league to start with. They almost never happen when a team first have to get rid of someone, then get someone.

 

[Anthony5967]

Howden should probably be moved to wing. Most teams are relying a lot on smart centers nowadays. We have even seen a return of the vet checking C with size. Those guys, Sutter and co, have learned to read the game pretty well by now.

My problem is this, though, we have enough wings. Does he have enough skill and speed to play wing over a Lemieux, Gauthier, Kravtsov, etc? I'd move Howden.

 

[I Eat Crow]

That would be a great trade. Acciari is actually a good defensive center.

I don't disagree with your evaluation but you can find these guys in UFA if you're smart and target the right player. There's no need to give up a decent asset when you can usually acquire a similar player in UFA for nothing but cap space.

 

[Savant]

Interesting, may be first time reading suggestion NYR go 4/4 in '21 Exp drft
... assuming roster similar to today.
So at F, you'd protect?
Bread, Zib, Chytil, Kreider?

So at F, expose Buch, Howden, Gauth, Lemieux, (Strome), (Fast), Lias, (Gettinger) ?

I am perfectly fine with Chytil and Buchnevich fighting over the last spot this season. I’d honestly rather keep Buchnevich at this point.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Again... what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Not an argument

 

[SA16]

I don't disagree with your evaluation but you can find these guys in UFA if you're smart and target the right player. There's no need to give up a decent asset when you can usually acquire a similar player in UFA for nothing but cap space.

I don't consider Howden a decent asset and Acciari is already signed to a good deal for two more years.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Not an argument

Who's arguing?

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Maybe we should trade for Luka Doncic

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Playing hockey yourself doesn't make you an expert per se, just saying.

Being a doctor doesn't make you a surgeon either buy i'd rather have a doctor working on me than a mechanic.