Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXII: “The Year of the Plague’s” last one...

ArPanet · Jan 7, 2021

Boyle messing with Karlsson in that playoffs was a classic example of a great kind of toughness.

leetch99 · Jan 7, 2021

Raspewtin said:
it's just amusing how Boyle has a strong bottom 6 player for many years and one of the best PKers of this entire generation, using his absolutely massive body to his advantage on the boards and with his reach on the PK, and racking up tops-in-the-league hits pretty routinely, and the only thing you can come up with is he wasn't goonish. Which is funny because Boyle was never shy about shoving and post-whistle scrums and was very defensive of his teammates his whole career. He just couldn't fight. That's it. I guess most of the league is soft then.

This !...He is right ! Boyle did everything above and protected his mates 100 % of the time without even looking at who he had to face down and he was fearless in doing so and yes....fighting was not his forte....but he would try none the less . That was then this is now....his playing days are almost over ...we have to move on . I think BB would be a great hire for our AHL club as a starting point for a new career for him .

NYR Viper · Jan 7, 2021

I'd take Boyle back for sure

aufheben · Jan 7, 2021

Bacon Artemi Bravo said:
On the main boards they brought up JT Miller as a main piece for the canucks to land PLD. Good god wouldn't that be a dagger to the heart. The McDonagh trade looks like it's going to continue to haunt.

Brought up by who?

Also...why? They have Pettersson-Horvat.

Bacon Artemi Bravo · Jan 7, 2021

aufheben said:
Brought up by who?

Also...why? They have Pettersson-Horvat.

Canucks board most prestigious and accurate posters of course - E5.

As for why? Probably because Miller is a real piece of crap that we're lucky to have not had on this team for the past 2 years :laugh:

Beer League Sniper · Jan 7, 2021

Raspewtin said:
Boyle was a monster on the boards and routinely a hits leader in the NHL. Why does he have this weird reputation for being soft?

Because he didn't know how to fight (well) for someone his size, and his hits weren't of the monster, bone-crunching variety. That's literally it.

Avery16 · Jan 7, 2021

ArPanet said:
Boyle messing with Karlsson in that playoffs was a classic example of a great kind of toughness.

He did show he was capable of it at times, which was even more infuriating.

Zynbanejad · Jan 7, 2021

To be honest, I only have good Brian Boyle memories, but reading this thread is bringing back some meh ones

thethirdhockeyman91 · Jan 7, 2021

I don't object to bringing back Boyle, but please don't ask him to fight. Guy who get knocked out by Zuccarello

NYR Viper · Jan 7, 2021

Am I missing something with Boyle's play last year? 15 points in 39 games puts him on a ~31 point pace for the season which is highly respectable. That's with 12:23 of average ice time

Fitzy · Jan 7, 2021

NYR Viper said:
Am I missing something with Boyle's play last year? 15 points in 39 games puts him on a ~31 point pace for the season which is highly respectable. That's with 12:23 of average ice time

People don’t like his fancy stats

mas0764 · Jan 7, 2021

kovazub94 said:
This is so pointless. Miller, Robertson, Lundkvist, Jones, Schneider are all prospects. There's not way to predict how they develop. The Rangers actually were in somewhat similar position about a decade ago with a bunch of good defensemen prospects coming up. You should look back and take a lesson in how that turned out.

Hmm, sure it’s all pointless speculation, it was just supposed to be good fun. Didn’t realize everyone was so cranky.

But I have to take issue with your classification that the Rangers were in any way close to having prospects of this number or quality ten years ago.

SA16 · Jan 7, 2021

NYR Viper said:
Am I missing something with Boyle's play last year? 15 points in 39 games puts him on a ~31 point pace for the season which is highly respectable. That's with 12:23 of average ice time

Yea that the offense was a fluke and his defensive numbers were awful at both 5v5 and the PK.

Lindberg Cheese · Jan 7, 2021

Bring Boyle back only if he acknowledges the T-Bone nickname

NYR · Jan 7, 2021

SA16 said:
Yea that the offense was a fluke and his defensive numbers were awful at both 5v5 and the PK.

Idk how I feel about Boyle but you've come to that conclusion because you clearly watched him right? Loll..

cwede · Jan 7, 2021

kovazub94 said:
This is so pointless. Miller, Robertson, Lundkvist, Jones, Schneider are all prospects. There's not way to predict how they develop. The Rangers actually were in somewhat similar position about a decade ago with a bunch of good defensemen prospects coming up. You should look back and take a lesson in how that turned out.

yeah this happens cyclically, but rarely to very great success
This team went to '79 Cup Final, and by 2 seasons later had added Laidlaw, Beck(trade) and Hospodar, all 23 or younger

but between '88 and '97, NYR drafted many D guys higher than 70thOA
'88 26OA Duval, '90 55OA Vary, '90 13OA Stewart, '91 37OA Werenka,
'93 34OA Sorochan, '95 65OA Martin. '96 22OA Brown, '97 46OA Jarvis
of these 8 guys, they totaled THREE career NHL games (all by Sorochan)

yes there were successes in there too - Nortstrom, Galanov -
but every other NYR drafted D in that time who had decent NHL career were drafted late
(Zubov then mostly bottom pair guys - Cairns, Purinton, Vial, Miller, ...)

SA16 · Jan 7, 2021

NYR said:
Idk how I feel about Boyle but you've come to that conclusion because you clearly watched him right? Loll..

Haven't missed a Ranger game since 2009 (only because it was an afternoon game and I thought it was a night game) and I watch multiple games throughout the league every night. How about you?

Mac n Gs · Jan 7, 2021

SA16 said:
Haven't missed a Ranger game since 2009 (only because it was an afternoon game and I thought it was a night game) and I watch multiple games throughout the league every night. How about you?

Yeah, but, watch the games, nerd.

NYR · Jan 7, 2021

SA16 said:
Haven't missed a Ranger game since 2009 (only because it was an afternoon game and I thought it was a night game) and I watch multiple games throughout the league every night. How about you?

The poster you replied to was referring specifically to last year.
Did you watch every Panther game as well? Enough to make a fair evaluation on BB's point totals?

I haven't missed a NYR game in decades.

NYR · Jan 7, 2021

Mac n Gs said:
Yeah, but, watch the games, nerd.

You too, dweeb :razz:

Lua · Jan 7, 2021

I don't think you need to watch a lot of his games to know that signing a 36 year old Brian Boyle is not a great idea

BBKers · Jan 7, 2021

I am OK with Byron Boy on a one year deal under $1 M. Abelkader, not so much...

Savant · Jan 7, 2021

Bring Boyle back if you think he is better than Rooney. That’s it.

Lion Hound · Jan 7, 2021